ok let's calm down on the internet thuging guys.

pony killer - the answer at this point seems to be we don't know. people are trying to think of cars that are faster, but are having a difficult time. i'm sure if you spent some time on google you would be able to give us the answer.

 

Like PSI Chick said, relax y'all. This definitely isn't worth getting all huffed up over.

The question is a good one - What stock FWD is the fastest ever?, and like I said earlier, after doing a bit of homework, I haven't found one that can trump the SRT-4.

Can anyone come up with a faster Stock FWD car? For those who are confused about what stock means, it means as it comes from the factory. That would be a S0 or ACR, unmodified SRT-4.

Even more to the point - Can anyone find a stock FWD car that will beat low to mid 5's to 60, and 13.7-14.2(call it 13.9) at 103 in the 1/4?

And no fighting.[sm=chairshot.gif]

 

There's only a couple of cars I've found in 2 days of searching, that come close.

The 96 Caddy STS, the 06 Eclipse, the GTP/GXP Grand Prix's, and the Nissan Altima SE-R. All of these list somewhere between 14.0-14.8 1/4 mile times....and I am not sure of the top speed.

That said, I would have say as far as I can tell, that yes the SRT-4 is the fastest FWD car currently on the market.

 

Same findings here.

The mitsu was pretty close, but it is hampered by that 3600+lb waistline. If they hadn't turned it into a giant turd and kept it lite and lithe like the 2g cars, they might have gotten us, but generally, mitsu is lame(other than the evo, of course).

The GXP is a surprising performer, and that v8 helps, but we got 'em. Best thing about those: The v-8 - since it has one, gxp owners think they are unbeatable. I love to dissapoint them whenever I get a chance. I have some funny footage of a grand prix getting pissed as we had a little rev war in traffic. He thought he was loud and badass with his new exhuast , and revved it hard when he saw me in the rear view(grrrrr, grrrrrr...) Little did he know...no cat and a turbo and GRRRRRRRR Pop Pop Grrrr POW! He got so pissed. Then we raced...he just looked down at his feet and frowned after - nothing to say after taking a bad loss to a little 4 banger.

Having the fastest fwd is fun!!!!!!!

 

Also having about 800lbs less to pull is nice to. The SRT-4 wins most of the time due to weight. Like you said, the Eclipse would beat you if it didnt weigh like a pig. The cars that I listed are averaging 300-500lbs more per car. All these are manual transmissions.

2005 SRT-4 curb weight = 2970
06 Eclipse GT = 3472
06 Altima SE-R = 3335
2006 GTP = 3583
2006 GXP = 3600

Let's be honest here for just a second. While the SRT-4 does come from factory, it is a true performance setup, like the Evo's and the SE-R. The two GM cars aren't, they use that same setup on like 5-6 different cars. Even if they have the top package their car comes with, they really aren't built to perform like the SRT-4 was. The SRT-4 was built to be a race car for the street. I like the SRT-4 and if it was bigger like the GXP, I would own one.

P.S. When I said built to perform, what I mean is that the SRT-4 was simply put built to go fast first, everything else second.

 

Your still off a little - do some research, homie. You are misspeaking again.

See following excerpt from GM press release RE: the GXP:

“The GXP performance series is about more than extra horsepower – it’s an extension of Pontiac ’s total performance lineup,� said Jim Bunnell, Pontiac-GMC general manager. “We’ve taken a systematic approach to elevating all aspects of the Grand Prix’s dynamics, ratcheting up everything from handling to styling and refinement, to give performance-oriented customers the exhilarating driving experience they desire.�

The Grand Prix GXP has an aggressive, hunkered-down look due to a re-tuned suspension that lowers the vehicle approximately 9 mm. The aggressive look is accented with a new front fascia with revised, chrome-ringed grille inserts and lower air inlets, as well as a new rear fascia that gives the car a more tightly wrapped appearance. The new front and rear fascias are complemented by rocker extensions.

GXP badges on the vehicle’s doors and prominent exhaust outlets in the rear fascia are stylish clues to the car’s performance. Low profile performance tires are mounted on 18-inch polished forged aluminum wheels to complete the exterior package.





Additionally, while we're being honest, here, the Eclipse GT and SE-R are also tuned significantly above base model levels.


Sorry.

 

I never said the SE-R and GT Eclipse weren't. If you read my post, notice I said the SE-R was completely built with performance in mind.

As for the GXP, I should have clarified my meaning. I meant mainly the chassis/engine usage. However, we all know that sharing a platform with 5-9 cars isnt exactly PERFORMANCE minded. I mean lets see.....the 4 door Buick Regal, Century, Pontiac Grand Prix 4 door lineup, and I want to say that there is another car using it as well.

You're right though, the GXP was built with some kind of performance in mind.....but not like the SRT-4 or the GT or the SE-R......I mean the GTP was built more for performance then the GXP, at least it came with a supercharger.

Oh, that article basically says they lowered the car roughly a 1/4in, tuned the suspension slightly, and changed some stupid badging/appearances..and low pro tires......oh yeah...that'll gimme 50 extra hp. I understand that its been beefed up, but I disagree on how much. It's the same engine as the Monte Carlo.

 

Try comparing the gxp to a base g.p. sedan, and you will find similar level of upgrade to the srt-4 vs. neon.

 

the only other fwd car that comes close right now i think is the cobalt ss s/c. it's not as fast as the srt (although the cobalt guys are in denial about this claiming it's a drivers race), but it's close. the magazines put the cobat around 14.4, but from the real world tracks it seems that the 14.4 is a really good time. most i've heard about are running in the upper 14's. so stock for stock the srt still wins (in the real world, not magazine world with their "adjusted" figures).

 

There are a lot of misconceptions and incorrect terminology, most of which has been corrected at some point already such as what stock is and what is stock. The mention of the Stealth/3000GT is invalid since the only version that even comes close to the SRT-4's times are the twin turbo versions which are AWD only, the non-turbo versions are the only ones that are FWD.

The SRT-4 shares it's turbocharged 2.4L engine with the PT Cruiser, it's called the GT Cruiser. The same 2.4L turbo engine was used in the Stratus' in Mexico. So, the 2.4L turbo in the SRT-4 has been used in a few other cars. The SRT-4's 2.4L turbo cannot be reproduced simply by using a turbo kit on a normal 2.4L, you would have to rebuild the engine to do it since it has different internal parts.

There is one aftermarket part on the SRT-4's, the boost gauge is an Auto Meter Pro Comp Ultra Lite, but it was installed at the factory. This still means that it is stock as it is no different than the factory using an alternator from Bosch rather than one they built themselves and no one would consider a car as being modified or aftermarket because of it.