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Old May 23, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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I am having an issue with my '94 Dakota, 3.9L, Extended Cab with 104000 miles on it. I poked around the forum and saw this thread referenced in another:

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...nsmission.html

Basically, what's happening is that it revs before engaging first (or reverse) when at a stop. Unlike in the above thread there is no slipping once engaged. All shifts seem to be otherwise fine, but they do seem more firm than they were prior to this behavior. It occasionally does this when rolling and going from foot-off-the-pedal to accelerating. Also, it does feel almost as though it is downshifting (or grabbing) when coasting, say decelerating from highway speed getting off an exit - it feels like you're tapping the brakes and you can see the tac needle advance. This just recently started happening and has gotten particularly bad today. I replaced fluid and filter with synthetic about 30000 miles ago, and adjusted the bands at the time.

I recently checked the fluid and it was good, except I checked it in Park and not in Neutral. I will do that tonight.

Anyhow, I've had trouble finding info on those specific symptoms. Like I said once driving the transmission works as expected, except for the deceleration behavior. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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I've got a '92 with what appears to be lockup shudder after sitting unused for a number of years. There is a lot of info out there on these transmissions.

If the bands are adjusted properly, and you've got the correct fluid (Mopar ATF4 nothing else), and the throttle valve (TV cable) is adjusted properly, then I would say the pump pressure is low.
There are a number of test ports on these transmission. Try ebay for a gauge 35-40$US.
In the FAQ #1 there are some factory service manuals available. The '95 one covers the same transmission as in your truck. There is a large section on the transmission with diagnostic info.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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i would flush it then add some tranny snake oil like Lucas to it.
 
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Old May 24, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TomD05Ram
I am having an issue with my '94 Dakota, 3.9L, Extended Cab with 104000 miles on it. I poked around the forum and saw this thread referenced in another:

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...nsmission.html

Basically, what's happening is that it revs before engaging first (or reverse) when at a stop. Unlike in the above thread there is no slipping once engaged. All shifts seem to be otherwise fine, but they do seem more firm than they were prior to this behavior. It occasionally does this when rolling and going from foot-off-the-pedal to accelerating. Also, it does feel almost as though it is downshifting (or grabbing) when coasting, say decelerating from highway speed getting off an exit - it feels like you're tapping the brakes and you can see the tac needle advance. This just recently started happening and has gotten particularly bad today. I replaced fluid and filter with synthetic about 30000 miles ago, and adjusted the bands at the time.

I recently checked the fluid and it was good, except I checked it in Park and not in Neutral. I will do that tonight.

Anyhow, I've had trouble finding info on those specific symptoms. Like I said once driving the transmission works as expected, except for the deceleration behavior. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Make sure when you check it in neutral its not cold, it wouldnt be off much but wont be perfectly accurate. In Park if showing full and not way way over, it prolly low a few quarts (dont ask but been there LOL)
 
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Old May 24, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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The pump doesn't turn in park so it could be low. As 92dakotaclub said make sure you drive it or idle in neutral and warm the fluid up before you check it in neutral.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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All,

Thanks for the replies. I checked the fluid while hot in neutral and it was a little low. I topped it off, but that didn't change the behavior. I am going to check the TV cable next. After that I may do a fluid and filter change.

May be a little while until I get to it. I have to do some routine maintenance stuff to my Ram in preparation for a trip. Thanks again, and I'll post after I check the TV cable.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 02:18 PM
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After that I may do a fluid and filter change.
go beyond that flush it
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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Is this problem only when the vehicle has sit, maybe overnight or all the time?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Sorry for the month-and-a-half late reply...

Not from sitting for a long period. It actually behaves best when first started cold, but once warm, which doesn't take long at all, it continues to be slow engaging - either from a dead stop, or decelerating, like foot-off-the-gas and slowing down to make a turn. Shifts fine once moving and on all up-shifts.

Thanks for the replies!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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after sitting a bit, warm, drain out a pint and add something like the Lucas or Tranny Honey... it things are not better in a couple days, i would seek out a flush/fluid/filter/adjustment service.
 
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