lowering springs
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Well it all depends on what you want from you neon, and your suspension setup. I say this, because my neons have mostly all been lowered with eibach sportlines, which have also worn out most of my struts. This is the result of using old lowering springs which sag a bit further. Buying new I'd suggest mopar high rate lowering springs, that actually come in several degrees of firmness.
This is taken from ACRucrazy, comparing mopar x high rate, high rate, and stock acr coil springs:
For the most part, any lowering springs made by a reputable manufacturer is going to do the same job (Eibach, Mopar, Skunk2, Goldline, etc). Ride heights are all going to be in the same ball park area of 1 inch drop to about 1.8 inch drop. The further the drop, the lower the center of gravity becomes. Car will handle like mad. The trade off is that your suspension will bare the brunt of this load. Translation; you run a good chance of wering out your struts faster, depending on their condition at the time of installation. It you really do not plan on dropping the car to the floor your stock struts should be fine. Anything past 1.5 inches, an upgrade of struts should be included. Roads around here are decently bumpy at times, and some eibach sportlines have killed my struts in two weeks flat. Koni struts are a great component to use in your car, but they come at a price. Considering the price new, most spend another $175 (+/-) and get BC coilovers from moderperformance.com. which come with everything you need. The best setup for a neon IMHO. Dan may say differently (local friend), but he is running a 95 acr with stock acr springs, koni struts, and factory rear sway. A very good setup as well, and at stock ride height those koni struts should last a very long time.
All in all, for better suspension life and cheaper shopping, keep the suspension height close to stock. If you have the coin, just add better struts.
This is taken from ACRucrazy, comparing mopar x high rate, high rate, and stock acr coil springs:
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
I had the rare opportunity to shoot some pics of all my springs together at once so I did that while I could.
Incase you ever get a set you are not sure about, notice the numbers of coils. Sorry no part numbers.
And another of Hi Rate VS X Hi Rate - X hi has the blue tape. Rears on the left, fronts on the right.
The acr springs are a little stiffer spring rates over stock. They are the same ride hight however.
I believe Stock rates are 140 front lbs, 110 lbs rear.
ACR rate are 150 front 120 rear.
I could be wrong, that is just from memory.
Mopar X Hi rate is 310 front, 230 rear?
Mopar Hi rate is 225 front 185 rear?
If I am wrong on any of those feel free to correct me.
Incase you ever get a set you are not sure about, notice the numbers of coils. Sorry no part numbers.
And another of Hi Rate VS X Hi Rate - X hi has the blue tape. Rears on the left, fronts on the right.
The acr springs are a little stiffer spring rates over stock. They are the same ride hight however.
I believe Stock rates are 140 front lbs, 110 lbs rear.
ACR rate are 150 front 120 rear.
I could be wrong, that is just from memory.
Mopar X Hi rate is 310 front, 230 rear?
Mopar Hi rate is 225 front 185 rear?
If I am wrong on any of those feel free to correct me.
All in all, for better suspension life and cheaper shopping, keep the suspension height close to stock. If you have the coin, just add better struts.
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if you are going just for look than the Eibach Sportlines would be fine. If you want it just lowered ever so slightly but have a really stiff ride, than high rates would work, the Mopar high-rates though are no longer made so if you want Mopar than you would need to buy them used from someone.
http://www.neongoodies.com/Goodies/L..._Springs.shtml
He has them listed as lowering springs but they are pretty much high rates.
If you upgrade to high rates though, I would highly suggest getting Koni struts or at least KYB GR-2's. Otherwise with lowering you could make them work with just about any. Just a word of advise, when using lowering springs, your struts won't last as long as they would with normal OEM springs.
I bought some Goldline lowering springs and I must say, I hate lowering springs and I wish I got highrates.
http://www.neongoodies.com/Goodies/L..._Springs.shtml
He has them listed as lowering springs but they are pretty much high rates.
If you upgrade to high rates though, I would highly suggest getting Koni struts or at least KYB GR-2's. Otherwise with lowering you could make them work with just about any. Just a word of advise, when using lowering springs, your struts won't last as long as they would with normal OEM springs.
I bought some Goldline lowering springs and I must say, I hate lowering springs and I wish I got highrates.
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Is there any other springs besides the ACR that are stiffer but near the stock ride height? The springs on my car feel really soft(could be wore out too). I dont want to lower it cause we do get lots of snow and dont want to have to replace struts as often. Also is there any way of telling the differance between ACR and a stock neon? Tried looking around and everywhere I look say it is just a base model with no options. (sorry if this is a Newb question, all I can find are lowering springs though)
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Is there any other springs besides the ACR that are stiffer but near the stock ride height? The springs on my car feel really soft(could be wore out too). I dont want to lower it cause we do get lots of snow and dont want to have to replace struts as often. Also is there any way of telling the differance between ACR and a stock neon? Tried looking around and everywhere I look say it is just a base model with no options. (sorry if this is a Newb question, all I can find are lowering springs though)
thinking about it why not lower it? even though you get a lot of snow where you live don't mean much. cities that have lots of snow are general prepared for the snow anyways.
I know where your comming from when you say you get lots of snow, I used to live in Alaska but the snow never stayed on the road for more than a few hours.
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other than the acr springs I dont think there is any way to get a stiffer ride without getting coilovers by Eibach which can easly run you over a thousand dollars. if you do lower it without coilovers use the KYB-GR2's on a budget or you can get the Koni's if your willing to spend the cash.
thinking about it why not lower it? even though you get a lot of snow where you live don't mean much. cities that have lots of snow are general prepared for the snow anyways.
I know where your comming from when you say you get lots of snow, I used to live in Alaska but the snow never stayed on the road for more than a few hours.
thinking about it why not lower it? even though you get a lot of snow where you live don't mean much. cities that have lots of snow are general prepared for the snow anyways.
I know where your comming from when you say you get lots of snow, I used to live in Alaska but the snow never stayed on the road for more than a few hours.
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I installed SRT4 springs and it lifted it about 1.5" and actual handles close to same as stock but now can go over rail road tracks and potholes/dips in road with out bottoming out or having to slow down lots. Its a beater so i could care less about lowering it, if anything higher is better for more clearance when we get a foot of snow in the winter, plus the added suspension travel. I was going to go with ACR's just for a stiffer spring but got these srt4 springs for free.