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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Hey guys;

Back to Project Dak for the time being. So i still have some intermittent transmission issues that i think i need to look into. Keep mind i have a shake shake shake right off idle.. let your foot off the break and it will shake shake shake.. almost like bad mounts or something but every test i've done suggests my mounts are fine.. sometimes it does it more than others.. the day the shake shake is not as bad i swear the truck performance is better but getting to the point here

i have a 44RE paried with 5.2L 97 CC 4x4. There is a tag inside on one of the bolts between the filter and main body that says suncoast, i did call them but they said there is no way for them to tell me if they did work on it and what they did and also that they typically only really messed with hemi's and Diesels and the 45RE torque converts. So I'm not sure.. but i can tell you there was a bolt on the bell housing not put all the way in and the shifter is misaligned which typically happens when the tranny is pulled or engine.

I have already replaced the Governer Transducer and the sensor for the shift in and out issue between 2nd and 3rd. With no further issues from that problem. THe truck has also had its fluid changed and new filter before i got the truck with 115K i think on the OD..and i also did it myself to be sure it was quality fluid and filter at about 125K i think.. i dont remember.. Then when i replaced the 2 components the fluid and only was changed at that time as i had to drop the pan.
Before I had discussed about having intermittent stall issue when backing out the drive way and then shifting to D. it will stall. I have already replaced the IAC and even re-cleaned a few times. But I dont think that's the issue actually. Sure if i give it gas it will *STILL* do it but the engine wont die and it like it powers through it.

Only will do it when cold.. it shifts fine and all as far as I can tell.. I can say that the days it does it performance sucks and it feels almost like its kinda random. I know that is very vague but that's just how it seems.

There is another issue that i feel is also related; some days backing slowly out of the drive way again before it's warmed up and in a closed loop it will act as if it slips out of gear.. you can feel it engage disengage and finally it might drop out of gear all together.. and all you have is reving the engine when you give it gas.

When it happens its almost like something electrical engaging/disengaging really rapid; or maybe like the feeling of running over the edge of a free way bumps really rapid and it looseing reverse.. Typically having to put to any other gear and putting back in D solves it.

So My question is; is there something electrical in the Transmission that could cause this or does it sound like my bands need to be tightened or could it be just that the transmission needs a rebuild? I dont think the bands were ever serviced before.. I got the truck at 110 or more miles i dont remember exactly.. and it now has 150K on it.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jondakotaguy
Hey guys;

Back to Project Dak for the time being. So i still have some intermittent transmission issues that i think i need to look into. Keep mind i have a shake shake shake right off idle.. let your foot off the break and it will shake shake shake.. almost like bad mounts or something but every test i've done suggests my mounts are fine.. sometimes it does it more than others.. the day the shake shake is not as bad i swear the truck performance is better but getting to the point here

i have a 44RE paried with 5.2L 97 CC 4x4. There is a tag inside on one of the bolts between the filter and main body that says suncoast, i did call them but they said there is no way for them to tell me if they did work on it and what they did and also that they typically only really messed with hemi's and Diesels and the 45RE torque converts. So I'm not sure.. but i can tell you there was a bolt on the bell housing not put all the way in and the shifter is misaligned which typically happens when the tranny is pulled or engine.

I have already replaced the Governer Transducer and the sensor for the shift in and out issue between 2nd and 3rd. With no further issues from that problem. THe truck has also had its fluid changed and new filter before i got the truck with 115K i think on the OD..and i also did it myself to be sure it was quality fluid and filter at about 125K i think.. i dont remember.. Then when i replaced the 2 components the fluid and only was changed at that time as i had to drop the pan.
Before I had discussed about having intermittent stall issue when backing out the drive way and then shifting to D. it will stall. I have already replaced the IAC and even re-cleaned a few times. But I dont think that's the issue actually. Sure if i give it gas it will *STILL* do it but the engine wont die and it like it powers through it.

Only will do it when cold.. it shifts fine and all as far as I can tell.. I can say that the days it does it performance sucks and it feels almost like its kinda random. I know that is very vague but that's just how it seems.

There is another issue that i feel is also related; some days backing slowly out of the drive way again before it's warmed up and in a closed loop it will act as if it slips out of gear.. you can feel it engage disengage and finally it might drop out of gear all together.. and all you have is reving the engine when you give it gas.

When it happens its almost like something electrical engaging/disengaging really rapid; or maybe like the feeling of running over the edge of a free way bumps really rapid and it looseing reverse.. Typically having to put to any other gear and putting back in D solves it.


So My question is; is there something electrical in the Transmission that could cause this or does it sound like my bands need to be tightened or could it be just that the transmission needs a rebuild? I dont think the bands were ever serviced before.. I got the truck at 110 or more miles i dont remember exactly.. and it now has 150K on it.

Thanks in advance.

Mine did the same thing about 2 years ago. It would do it randomly for about the next 6-8 month and then took a sh*t on a dark country road in the middle of a horrible rain storm.

With all the issues you are having i think its safe to say planning a rebuild in the near future is a smart idea.

Here is a like to my rebuild thread ~> https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...iy-w-pics.html
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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That's what i'm afraid of.. I'm wondering if there is anything else electrical in this thing that could cause it or if just the parts i already replaced. Still cheaper than buying a new truck i guess.
 
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That's what i'm afraid of.. I'm wondering if there is anything else electrical in this thing that could cause it or if just the parts i already replaced. Still cheaper than buying a new truck i guess.

Nothing electrical would cause your issues that i can thing of... When i rebuilt mine myself i had around $300 into it. Not hard to rebuild if you take your time and read the manual on it. I have the 42RE (same as the 44RE) ATSG manual on PDF if you decide to go that route.
 

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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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I would call suncoast again I find it hard to believe that they can give you anything to look at to suggest that it is stock or built. If you pull the pan something has to tell them that it is their parts. The stalling issue could be a map sensor. My 44 in my 98 would drop out of gear when cold but if I went to N then back to drive it would be fine. I delt with that for prob 2 years. Then randomly one day I drove it to my buddies house after towing 3k(drove about 10 miles unhooked after that and was fine) The next day I went to get gas and go home and 3rd gear was non existent. That was a long 40min drive with 3rd missing. If you babied the throttle it wouldnt make it past 3rd unless you took it full throttle.
 
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dodgeramguy yeah exactly waht i thought.. When i dropped the pan and filter there sits this little aluminim tag coming off a bolt with teh little half sun on the left and suncoast rote out.. i called them and they have no clue and claim they would not work on my type of truck or tranmsisison. so i'm not sure..

I have replaced the MAP soem time back when i was chasing the shake grimlin; i put a delphi on it actually it did perform a little differnt than the one it had but seemed positve results. Nothing has really changed since then really. it did this before i did that too, typically i cleaned iAC finally i changed it compleatly didnt have any isues for a while it came back as it cooled off... really seems liek its temp related.. if its warm it wont do it.. but if its still cold it will most likely eitehr stall when switching from R to D or it will do that loose reverse shake shake in/otu of gear till it falls out.. this happens very rare..
 
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Bump.. anyone else have any imput could the bands not being serviced caused this?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Try these, for the slipping in reverse. Note that none are electrical.

1. Fluid Level Low. Add fluid and check for leaks.
2. Gearshift Linkage Misadjusted. Adjust linkage.
3. Rear Band Misadjusted. Adjust band.
4. Rear Band Worn. Replace as required.
5. Overdrive Direct Clutch Worn. Disassemble overdrive. Repair as needed.
6. Hydraulic Pressure Too Low. Perform hydraulic pressure tests to determine cause.
7. Rear Servo Leaking. Air pressure check clutch-servo operation and repair as required.
8. Band Linkage Binding. Inspect and repair as required
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Thanks Dan.. I'm thinking about adjusting the bands it was never done.. I kinda listened good ol pop that said he wouldnt touch it if it were him and i never did.

Ill look over the check list thanks I'm hoping to avoid a rebuild if i can.. I would need to pay someone I can turn a wrench and work on the truck but busting side I'm not that confident and would rather it be backed by a warranty lol
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Is there anything else that could cause the dieing from R to D issue other than MAp; IAC; TPS or transmission issue.???
 
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