They make a hell of a difference, go find a corner that at 100 km/h its pushing the limits then lower your car with some stiffer springs and take the same corner, it makes a huge difference, mind you i have koni's so its going to be even better but still the principle is the same

 

That isn't what I was saying at all. Lower springs will help you corner a looot better. But when do you take a turn that fast on the street? I said in one of my first post that most of the suspension mods will only be used on a circuit track. Lowering your car will make it better. But stiffing your dampeners and springs won't really help that much. All that really does is increase responsiveness. If you take one turn you won't see the power of a stiff suspension setup.

With stock springs you take a sharp hard right turn. You are fine, your driver side springs absorb the weight. The turn was taken with ease. Now ad another turn right after that and while your driver side soft springs are so compressed and still absorbing weight from the first turn you go into the second left hand turn. All of your weight is still on your driver side tires and you need them on your passenger side. Your spings are so soft that they don't react fast enough and your get both understeer and oversteer and you are done.

With stiff springs you take a sharp hard right turn. Just like the soft springs you are fine. With stiffer front springs you will actual experience more understeer(im not making this up). So softer would have been better there. BUT if you had an immediate left turn your weight transfers quickly and your are home free.

I said this to adionik(or however its spelled) when he put a sway bar on his car and slid into a curb with it. stiffening the back increases responsiveness but also increases oversteer. Stiffening the front springs increases the responsiveness but increases the understeer.

 

u will also have a lower center of gravity when u lower ur car. im just putting it out there.

 

Swimmer if your like me and into show mods yeah a drop would be a really nice add. You can do it whenever you feel like it and still get the red led neons and aem intake I would get red think Im going with a injen intake found one really decent price for a 2.0 sohc 03-05 neon for 100 bucks locally brand new and last one they have at a performance shop I just found today. A drop is a nice add for show and go rides.

 

Yeah, we discussed that part. Lowering really only has one positive and one con. The positive is making it lower to the center of gravity. The con is bottoming out(even on the race track).

 

I take turns fast on the street when theres no one around and im having some fun,also if you take a sharp right hander with stock springs and then lower your car and take that corner there is a huge difference man, when i got my car and then i lowered it i noticed a big difference even on single corners so i dont know what your talking about when you say stock springs are the same when its like white and black, have you lowerd your car with some good springs and actually tried it? because it makes a huge difference, so yes stiffer springs and adjustable struts do help on any corners, they are far better then stock, give it a try and you will understand

 

yeah I have had the tokiko 5 way ajustable struts came stock on my acr srt4 and I added come stage 3 coilovers for an awesome drop kind of gave her a slammed look.

 

Once again, when if you do it for fun thats different I guess. I'm saying for straight away racing. If you do it for fun go for suspension lol.

well here is a question. Yes, its different. Is it better? I'm not just pulling this info out of no where. Its just how it works. The weight has to go somewhere. If your springs don't absorb it your tires do. And once you use 100% of your tire you get oversteer/understeer.

And keep in mind. Lowering and stiff springs are two different things. Don't blend them. So when we are talking about lowering your car it really is irrelevant to say that stiffening your springs is good too. Because I'm sure each company is different. And unless you have tried them all and tested them on track that you will actually use them on then it really doesn't matter. I mean if you made your rear springs as hard as a rock they may help with weight transfer. And besides the fact that your car will get air if you bump a rock what do you think will happen in a turn? Do you think it will magical just turn amazingly? Its science, intertia force, moving weight has to go somewhere has got to go somewhere. If take away the absorbing ability of the springs it goes to the tires. The tires are already have a hard time keeping grip from turning.

I'm not saying stiff springs are bad at all. Just saying...they won't really be used in a street race. And if I made suspension mods on my car it would mostly be to just say I put them on and thats my sweet car. And a little bit for fun. But I'm not going to put a few hundred bucks into my car so I can have fun taking the very few turns you can actually do anything on. I would put that money into other mods. Then once I have a lot of other things done I would do it for the same reason that graphite pointed out, better launch.

 

wanna sell those ACR struts?

 

Straight away racing with a Neon? Whats that? lol.