Volant Cold Air Intake???
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ORIGINAL: mopowar
Anybody that goes and fits some turbo they found on the internet without bigger injectors and a way to tune them is asking for trouble. It will cost more than gaskets on a minibike.
Anybody that goes and fits some turbo they found on the internet without bigger injectors and a way to tune them is asking for trouble. It will cost more than gaskets on a minibike.
no no, dont mislead people....its going to be fine...perfectly fine
wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean, say na more...say na more!
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ORIGINAL: Slomojo01
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
it will lean out the engine and it will break. and no, 300 dollars is rediculous for a plastic tube don't you think?
nitrous isNOT flammable by itself.
nitrous is injected into the engine as N2O and it puts more oxygen into the combustion chamber thanunder normal conditions. the only reason why it is able to make power is because of the addition of more fuel. the nitrous is just allowing the extra fuel to be burnt and used because of its super oxegenated nature.
if you add air air air without fuel fuel fuel, u won't get anything but trouble. ever see a nasty nitrous backfire? (too lean)
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RE: Volant Cold Air Intake???
ORIGINAL: IndyRamMan
Yes, nitrous is in essence nothing more than super cooled compressed air, rather than a combustable gas like hydrogen would be. (this is a little bit of a generalization but in ESSENCE thats what it is). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide Wikipedia has some good info on how its formed and its uses, and a little history of where it comes from (my favorite mechanical technological force of the 20th centruy the luftwaffe)
Your idea is very conceivable, but rather inefficiant. The idea you have there is basicly the same idea as supercharging. Shoving more air in at a given time (whereas nitrous is shoving more air in at a given time via its temperature) For that you would have to have the compressed air lines air tight to the combustion chambers so that it doesnt blow out through the throttle body or some other route. Unfortunately that 15 gallon tank would run out in about 20 rpm (15 gal = 56L, each revolution takes 1/2 the displacement of the motor, so for every 2 revs its 5.9L x10 = 20 revs =59L of air) Youll have a BLIP of supercharging. Good idea on paper.
ORIGINAL: Slomojo01
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
Yes, nitrous is in essence nothing more than super cooled compressed air, rather than a combustable gas like hydrogen would be. (this is a little bit of a generalization but in ESSENCE thats what it is). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide Wikipedia has some good info on how its formed and its uses, and a little history of where it comes from (my favorite mechanical technological force of the 20th centruy the luftwaffe)
Your idea is very conceivable, but rather inefficiant. The idea you have there is basicly the same idea as supercharging. Shoving more air in at a given time (whereas nitrous is shoving more air in at a given time via its temperature) For that you would have to have the compressed air lines air tight to the combustion chambers so that it doesnt blow out through the throttle body or some other route. Unfortunately that 15 gallon tank would run out in about 20 rpm (15 gal = 56L, each revolution takes 1/2 the displacement of the motor, so for every 2 revs its 5.9L x10 = 20 revs =59L of air) Youll have a BLIP of supercharging. Good idea on paper.
i found a mistake here... nitrous isnt just compressed air.the nitrogen is more easily compressed than air and injecting it into the engine obviously increases air density and allows for more oxygenin the combustion process. the nitrogen is just as important as the oxygen. itdilutes the oxygento achieve the optimal pressure and temperature environment in the engine.the nitrogen atoms in each molecule also aid inanti friction as a neat byproduct. NOT the same as "compressed air"
DON'T TRY TO HOOK UP A COMPRESSED AIR BOTTLE AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR NITROUS. NOT THE SAME.
and remember kids, injecting pure oxygen in the motor is a no-no too, unless u want to relieve it of its duties for life.
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ORIGINAL: zddp8868
i found a mistake here... nitrous isnt just compressed air.the nitrogen is more easily compressed than air and injecting it into the engine obviously increases air density and allows for more oxygenin the combustion process. the nitrogen is just as important as the oxygen. itdilutes the oxygento achieve the optimal pressure and temperature environment in the engine.the nitrogen atoms in each molecule also aid inanti friction as a neat byproduct. NOT the same as "compressed air"
DON'T TRY TO HOOK UP A COMPRESSED AIR BOTTLE AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR NITROUS. NOT THE SAME.
and remember kids, injecting pure oxygen in the motor is a no-no too, unless u want to relieve it of its duties for life.
ORIGINAL: IndyRamMan
Yes, nitrous is in essence nothing more than super cooled compressed air, rather than a combustable gas like hydrogen would be. (this is a little bit of a generalization but in ESSENCE thats what it is). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide Wikipedia has some good info on how its formed and its uses, and a little history of where it comes from (my favorite mechanical technological force of the 20th centruy the luftwaffe)
Your idea is very conceivable, but rather inefficiant. The idea you have there is basicly the same idea as supercharging. Shoving more air in at a given time (whereas nitrous is shoving more air in at a given time via its temperature) For that you would have to have the compressed air lines air tight to the combustion chambers so that it doesnt blow out through the throttle body or some other route. Unfortunately that 15 gallon tank would run out in about 20 rpm (15 gal = 56L, each revolution takes 1/2 the displacement of the motor, so for every 2 revs its 5.9L x10 = 20 revs =59L of air) Youll have a BLIP of supercharging. Good idea on paper.
ORIGINAL: Slomojo01
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
IndyRamMan you said earlier that Nitrous is like just super cold air being dumped into an engine. Are you saying that the Nitrous Oxide isn't much of a combustible gas? I'm curious to know because I've never seen the stuff or read too much about it. If that's the case then my little idea that I, and probably many others have concieved, might actually be worth my time...
I had the crazy idea that if I got a 2400 watt inverter, one big *** air compressor with a 15 gallon sotrage tank that runs on about 15 amps at 120V with a max pressure of 200psi, two extra 10 gallon compressed air tanks, a electronically controlled valve, and some 1/2" - 3/4" compressed air lines, I may just be able to bump my engines power output up a lil bit...[sm=gears.gif]
Now the only question is this...
A.) Is this what one would call a Cold Air Intake Worth Over $300?
B.) Will I blow the heads off my motor?
C.) Will I throw a rod and break my crank?
D.) Or will that little smallblock just scream?
Yes, nitrous is in essence nothing more than super cooled compressed air, rather than a combustable gas like hydrogen would be. (this is a little bit of a generalization but in ESSENCE thats what it is). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide Wikipedia has some good info on how its formed and its uses, and a little history of where it comes from (my favorite mechanical technological force of the 20th centruy the luftwaffe)
Your idea is very conceivable, but rather inefficiant. The idea you have there is basicly the same idea as supercharging. Shoving more air in at a given time (whereas nitrous is shoving more air in at a given time via its temperature) For that you would have to have the compressed air lines air tight to the combustion chambers so that it doesnt blow out through the throttle body or some other route. Unfortunately that 15 gallon tank would run out in about 20 rpm (15 gal = 56L, each revolution takes 1/2 the displacement of the motor, so for every 2 revs its 5.9L x10 = 20 revs =59L of air) Youll have a BLIP of supercharging. Good idea on paper.
i found a mistake here... nitrous isnt just compressed air.the nitrogen is more easily compressed than air and injecting it into the engine obviously increases air density and allows for more oxygenin the combustion process. the nitrogen is just as important as the oxygen. itdilutes the oxygento achieve the optimal pressure and temperature environment in the engine.the nitrogen atoms in each molecule also aid inanti friction as a neat byproduct. NOT the same as "compressed air"
DON'T TRY TO HOOK UP A COMPRESSED AIR BOTTLE AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR NITROUS. NOT THE SAME.
and remember kids, injecting pure oxygen in the motor is a no-no too, unless u want to relieve it of its duties for life.
