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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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From the pictures I can tell that your bearing race cap lock bolts are missing. Without them it's quite possible and very likely that the bearing adjusters will come loose and you'll have serious issues. Have those numbskulls at the shop put those 2 things in your hand so you can install them before you drive the truck. Good thing you took those pictures. If you didn't, that would have been a serious headace.
Do you think they left those out intentionally so it'd destroy the rear end so I'd have to get a new rear end? They don't know I plan to take the truck out of there so they could have just rushed it together so they could move it out of their shop, but how should I tell them about the lockbolts? Should I just be honest and tell them I opened the cover and just wanted to look at it again or something?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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and im willing to bet a TANK will not get over 30k on an engine.
The Bradley tank uses a cummins engine. So i'd bet that one could get more than 30k
 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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huh?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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This used carrier your buying, is it complete with the axle and side gears?
If so you will need carrier bearings, RTV, gear oil. Axle seals are also an option but not mandatory.

For the install you and your buddy will need hand tools, a torque wrench and an adjuster tool for the carrier preload and a dial indicator (to verify back lash)

I don't know if you can rent / borrow the adjuster from the parts store.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:39 AM
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Your pretty good with paint I may say But here is my next question. What exactly did they do to reinstall all those parts? I thought the LSD's clutches fell apart on them? Is that truck drivable after they put those lockbolts back on? And if it is drivable, how is it? In regards to the open carrier, I don't think it's coming with anything else, just the carrier itself. That's all I need right? The mechanics told me all of my other parts seemed to be in good shape. He said I'd just need a new bearings kit, and I want to buy a seal kit as well just for safe measures. I have an Autozone right down the street for me, so I will borrow an adjuster tool for the carrier & the dial indicator. So as it stands now, am I having this truck towed to my house, or is that setup they have going on in there rideable? Just was confused that they got the unit back in there, I thought he said it fell apart on him? Slomojo was this what you were talking about with the "unlimited slip"?

** Sorry fellas, have another question. Now that my friend will be helping me install all of these parts and I don't have to worry about everything being marked up, would buying a new posi unit be a bad idea? I guess the only reason I want to make it an open carrier was incase the housing was infact bad. I didn't want to throw in a new unit, and then it get chewed up. BUT, if I did buy a new LSD unit, would that make the install easier? I heard you have to use shims etc. since we are changing the carrier set-up, is this true? I guess it's just a thought, but now that I'm thinking of it, I wouldnt want to spend $300+ on a unit, and then find out the housing was infact junk, and then it get destroyed. So I'll probably play it safe, and just stay really cheap on this job, that way I won't feel too too bad if anything goes on me. Is the shim thing true? Is it a big deal to change the different carrier styles (lsd to open?).
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Your pretty good with paint I may say
This isn't a gay forum. Don't be winking at me unless you wana look like this. [sm=owned.gif]

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I thought the LSD's clutches fell apart on them?
I can't say what exactly happened when the shop took the LSD apart but I can say this; The sctratches, discovered by the tranny shop, inside you housing seem to be coming from a LSD that's beginning to come apart. This is why the tranny shop wanted to sell you a new LSD, locker, or whatever and this new shop wanted to sell you the same, if not more.

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Is that truck drivable after they put those lockbolts back on? And if it is drivable, how is it?
I wouldn't drive it. Unless the back wheels were off the ground, I wouldn't even have it towed without knowing whats going on inside the carrier. Didn't that picture you took show how there was no oil in the rear end? That alone is reason enough not to tow the truck while standing on the back wheels.

If all of the clips and clutches weren't reinstalled because something did infact fall apart and not get replaced or reinstalled properly, if possible, then, inside the carrier, there could be room for play for the spider gears to slide around which isn't good. If your not sure how things were put back together at the shop, you should inspect the spider gears before moving the truck.

Everything should be very tight. You shouldn't be able to slide the side gears in the carrier along the axel shafts left to right or vice versa. If you can, then ther's room for play and the C clips could fall out or the pinion gears can move. Either way it's no good and that should be checked.

If you do tow the truck, just check the rear end to make sure everything is tight and nothing is going to fall out of place. Then just have the truck towed on a flatbed or with the back wheels up in the air.

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I don't think it's coming with anything else, just the carrier itself. That's all I need right?
The open carrier probably requires that you get some thrust washers for the side gears. Other then that, the spider gears, washers, pinion shaft and all that should be the same and interchangeable.

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He said I'd just need a new bearings kit, and I want to buy a seal kit as well just for safe measures.
I would say that getting that is like getting some top notch insurance for around a $100 that will easily last another 100,000 miles.

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So as it stands now, am I having this truck towed to my house, or is that setup they have going on in there rideable?
If you don't inspect the rear end the truck isn't driveable especially without fluid and the friction modifier additive. Only tow the truck with the rear wheels up in the air or with the truck on a flatbed if you don't know wahts going on inside there.

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Just was confused that they got the unit back in there, I thought he said it fell apart on him? Slomojo was this what you were talking about with the "unlimited slip"?
Don't know without pictures or true facts detailing how it fell apart. Un-LSD is when the friction material in the clutches wears away completely, thus not holding anything in place allowing everything to move freely just as in an open differential.

 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I'm confused...

Are you buying the open carrier from Pavementsucks or this Trac-Lok from Slomojo.
This Trac-lok looks to be in very good condition. Even the side bearings look good and reusable.
It is the same work to install an open vs a Trac-Lok carrier and you don't need any shims. Backlash and preload are adjusted with those threaded collars in the axle tubes.

Download the manual from the Merry Christmas thread and follow directions closely.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I recall last night trying to pull on the guts of the differential to see if it was tight, and nothing would move. Although I never tried to move it side to side, so I can't tell if there would be play. I'm also not completely convinced they plan to leave it that way, as of now they have no idea I plan to have the truck towed out of there, so they could have just done the least possible assembling just to get the truck out of their garage and into their parking lot. About half the bolts for the diff. cover were only hand tightened when I was unscrewing them, which would furthermore lead me to believe they have the differential in a position to dig back into it. I guess I didn't know you could reinstall the lsd unit if the clutches had fallen out. I highly doubt they reassembled the clutches either, especially seeing that he told me they all fell apart on him when he was disasembling the whole diff. last week. I am having the truck towed by a flatbed as well, so the vehicle won't have to move much. I will make sure they put everything back together so it's safe to roll up and off the ramp as well. I'm still looking for an open carrier though, the guy on pavementsucks.com hasn't replied back to me for over a day. I'd like to get this project going and I really don't have time to be waiting around. Work really can't begin until I either have an open carrier, or some kind of replacement carrier system. Slomojo, was that your trac-lok? Or was that from a different ram. Also, if the guy on pavementsucks.com doesn't follow through with me in the next day, is that open carrier from your axle still an option for you to send out to me. So other than the bearings and seal kit, I just need some new thrust washers for the side gears. Would I just go to a napa type place and ask for thrust washers for a 9.25 axle? Or is that just a generic washer I pick up. Let me know about that open carrier. I'm basically looking for the cheapest and quickest way to get a unit sent my way so I can get this truck back on the road. I'm already down a week, not cool. Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction. I figure I'll be pretty good with rear ends by the time I'm done with all of this.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Not sure who you are going to call for a tow but I have used DC towing out of Kennebunk a couple times in the last few years and recommend them if they go up your way. They have a flatbed so you can get all 4 off the ground. My insurance also reimbursed me for the tow afterwards.
 
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