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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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if a diesel didnt have that turbo their compression would have to be like 50 to one because they are compression ignition, just to create enough heat to properly burn, not saying there isnt any non turbo diesel engines, there are but they are few and far between, and a V10 is a good motor the only reason there was people getting angry (such as me) was because someone came on and just called them ****,

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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Ok, you guys are comparing apples to oranges here. Lets take it down to basics....
Diesel vs. Gas: The big claim on the gas side is that the Cummins is turbo, but you cant run a diesel too lean. Thats the beauty of the design. You have to run a turbo to force enough air into the chamber. Yes, you can put a turbo on a V10, and yes it will give you a ****load of power. But are you putting the turbo on there as a necessity??? No, you tune a V10 and get all the horsepower possible out of it, but add a turbo and you have to upgrade your fuel system. Gassers just cant run lean. It dont work. We all know this, and each of you has your own opinion. First off, set some ground rules. Ok, great a V10 in a short bed, half ton, 2wd can out run a 1 ton Cummins. Great, but it doesnt prove anything. You guys wanna compare drag times, ok great. Then go to the track and pull. But back to the original question, which is the better all around truck? Well lets see, Ive pulled a 24ft steel stock trailer thru the flint hills ponies on the back, and never taken the cruise off. Got 18mpg the whole way from Oklahoma to Iowa. Doubt I could have done that with a V10 and got that kinda of mileage. But when farm diesel was $4 a gallon, I was wishing I had a V10. About the only way to solve this arguement is for you guys to pull your pants down and see who has the longer d**k! The old saying is V10's will pass everything but a filling station. Diesels are expensive to work on. Pick the one that fits your style the best and go for it. But dont gripe at the other guys b/c they got a different truck.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mowhawk
Diesels are built with turbos..ment for turbos used with turbos for a reason..a diesel with a turbo is stock. A diesel w/o a turbo just..doesnt work. Thats like running an engine w/o a carb or TB. Just..no.
I take it you never drove a Gm 5.7/6.2 non turbo diesel, Ford 6.9 non turbo diesel or that Dodge non turbo diesel they had for a few years in the 80's? Mergin on the hwy was more of a prayer then a actuality lol Like I have said, the turbo is the ONLY thing that has saved diesel engines in regular consumer trucks. truth be known, most are not even used to a 1/4 of their potential and are bought more for status then need. You hang a turbo on a properly built gas engine and it makes insane amounts of power, look at what they get out of those jap 4 poppers and buick v6's. Theres plenty of street driven twin turbo v10's on youtube makin well over 1000-2000 hp, go check em out.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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BTW, I work on an engine that weighs 275lbs wet, and is rated at 650shp. Royles Royce is the King!!!!
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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How's this for a turbo?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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I agree it is beyond silly to compare the two and say one is better then the other. Those of us here who understand the pros and cons of both get this, it's the noobs that get this crap stirred up to a ridiculous point.


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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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haha, nice and its true, and without that turbo a diesel engine wouldnt be able to run so lean cause it wouldnt stay running, like ive been saying for three pages its a unfair comparison, on a farm a diesel is what you want, or towing trailers for a living, but if its to bum around and tow the odd thing dont buy a diesel you will kill it
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCameltoe
I agree it is beyond silly to compare the two and say one is better then the other. Those of us here who understand the pros and cons of both get this, it's the noobs that get this crap stirred up to a ridiculous point.


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thank you haha well put
hey where are you from and what do you do for a living
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aim4squirrels
Man that takes me back to my 2.2/2.5 turbo days with the Omni. I am always on the look out for a 2.5 turbo Caravan, god help the ricers if I ever find one
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpnorris87
Ok, you guys are comparing apples to oranges here. Lets take it down to basics....
Diesel vs. Gas: The big claim on the gas side is that the Cummins is turbo, but you cant run a diesel too lean. Thats the beauty of the design. You have to run a turbo to force enough air into the chamber. Yes, you can put a turbo on a V10, and yes it will give you a ****load of power. But are you putting the turbo on there as a necessity??? No, you tune a V10 and get all the horsepower possible out of it, but add a turbo and you have to upgrade your fuel system. Gassers just cant run lean. It dont work. We all know this, and each of you has your own opinion. First off, set some ground rules. Ok, great a V10 in a short bed, half ton, 2wd can out run a 1 ton Cummins. Great, but it doesnt prove anything. You guys wanna compare drag times, ok great. Then go to the track and pull. But back to the original question, which is the better all around truck? Well lets see, Ive pulled a 24ft steel stock trailer thru the flint hills ponies on the back, and never taken the cruise off. Got 18mpg the whole way from Oklahoma to Iowa. Doubt I could have done that with a V10 and got that kinda of mileage. But when farm diesel was $4 a gallon, I was wishing I had a V10. About the only way to solve this arguement is for you guys to pull your pants down and see who has the longer d**k! The old saying is V10's will pass everything but a filling station. Diesels are expensive to work on. Pick the one that fits your style the best and go for it. But dont gripe at the other guys b/c they got a different truck.
Great points.
 
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