Talon6 glad to help Figured you were serious by the specific questions.
Have quite a few install pics/info on this page
http://www.rm-indy.com/05_picsnslips.htm

 

talon how would a supercharger respnd to a truck with a lift and big tires ??

 

Has ANYONE with one of these super chargers been able to get ALL the bugs worked out of the tuning process? I'd like to hear from someone who has done it as I have yet to talk to one person with one of these belt driven headaches who has done it. there's always mention of "runs great BUT still need to fine tune". I think if you keep it at the low 6-8 psi levels your fine with the crude piggyback fuel enrichment systems that comes with these things, which is usually pig rich for safety. Once you start to throw a big cam, higher compression, ported heads, stroker motors, super or turbo charger, these dodge PCM's just crap all over themselves and the result is almost always a fragged motor. So please someone show me some real proof these things can work on a magnum motor. I'd like to just hear from regular guys, no tuner shops who sell this stuff for a livin need respond. IMO nitrous is the only safe way to add big power on these trucks and have the motor remain reliable and in one piece, but of course that can be over done too.

 

hehe ,they look a little like a dog's weiner

 

should respond pretty good. maybe not as good as indy's 2 wheel drive reg cab. but hp is hp and torque is torque and it will be adding both.

 

how can you knock something you never have tried. if you add a big cam,higher compression,ported heads,and stroker motors as you say, you need to get it tuned also. and i would rather have it a little rich so the motor doesnt explode. heck if you change anything on your motor and want it to run"perfect" you have to get a tune.there used to be a couple guys on here that did the the supers and were very happy with the results.

your post is kinda silly. my point is if you donnt like supers, donnt do them.

 

I don't have to stick my head in a pile of pig crap to know it stinks either. I have had quite a few friends who tried the SC route, only to get tired of the headaches and then yank them back off. The tuning aspect seems simple enough, BUT the Dodge PCM's don't seem to be capable of working with the radical combos, thats the problem. They never seem to run properly and the motor usually pops before the magical tune is ever figured out. Take a good look at the clasified sections on these Dodge forums, there's a reason super chargers show up a good bit on them. I saw one for sale on one of these forums for $1800, if you want I can find the link for you? I promise not to even tease you when the motor pops a piston from runnin lean and you list it for sale within a year lol

 

Would you buy a truck that had an n2o bottle or s/c on it? I wouldnt, chances are it has been run hard. Adding supercharger or n2o will not increase resale value. Guys sell them to recoup more of their money that they would loose if it was left on.

Your partialy correct about getting around the tune on an MP PCM till the SCT tuner came out. Most serious guys would go for stand alone engine management. Then the SCT tuner came out and you could get similar results with a proper tune from one of them. I got the FAST stand alone before everyone figured out the SCT would work well.
Only thing the MP PCM will be attached to is the trans on my Indy so it eliminates it altogether from the motor tune.

As far as your statement about pig rich at idle in first post. Untrue, good supercharger kits will included an fmu. Its boost referenced so will only increase fuel pressure when there is positive pressure in the intake manifold. Shows vac, it doesnt add fuel. Under driven my D-1SC didnt start to make boost till about 2350.

Why did I loose my headgaskets? Cause I was tuning (laptop) my MP PCM with an SMT6 when it was NA (before adding s/c). With every bolt on, plus 52tb, m1/2bbl, rt+10 cam, 1.7rr and fms 24lb inj the mp pcm had it running pig rich at idle. With the SMT6 I was pulling fuel at low rpms and adding a bit in the top rpms. I also was adding a bit more timing to it above what the mp pcm gave. Why did I have issues with it? Wireing schematics bases on 01 Dak RT. The base parameters that Perfect Power suggested had my motor running like crap. They suggested I try different base settings till it work. I finally got it to work but had the odd idle stall. Started to tune it anyways cause wasnt sure if I had another issue. Ran great for a few days, then it seemed I had to pull timing cause it would detonate badly. At the time I notice some fluctuations in my rad resevoir after any 5000+ rpm shifts indicating hdgkst issue. Had a few good days with tune so said fk it n added the Procharger anyways. Had a bet at work I wouldnt get a 12sec et as well as I wanted to see what I liked with the kit prior to stroking the motor.
SMT6 really started to act up with boost, so disabled it short time later and put my stock computer back in and just tuned fuel under boost the the fmu. Stock computer didnt like the cam, m1 or injectors(as mentioned earlier) and had it pig rich cause of that. Technically it had nothing to do with running boost. Got it running really strong under boost with base settings suggested by Procharger and little fine tuning got a/f where I wanted it. I wasnt getting the potential cause of running the stock pcm lowering shifts by 600rpms (400rpm below NA peak hp) lower rpms limited boost more, mph limiter kicked in at 102mph (on 28" slicks)

Now you mentioned in your first post how n2o is safe. BULLCHIT! Not when it goes bad, tends to be catostrophic failure. Only 2guys Ive seen airlifted off the race track were both running n2o. Both cars burnt to the ground. One of them didnt survive! Ive seen hoods blown off from backfires, one of them cleared the tower (at the line) and the guy almost ate his intake manifold when it caved in his windshield. Dropping driveshafts at the line or dumping the tran at the line Ive seen a few times on n2o cars .(can happen on any car) One buddy was running a 100shot in his ram and blew his cai to kingdom come. Stroking the mtr later he split the block in 1/2 before getting the bottle back on. Did it cause that, cant say for sure but adding a 100shot gives instant 92rwhp/150trq on a dyno so it shocks the crap out of the motor, tc, trans and the rest of the driveline. Unless your running a progressive controller I would guarantee it will shorten lifespan. Any large increase in hp will regardless of na, n2o or supercharging. Any mention of n2o to my wife and it was NO WAY, get the supercharger. (she saw one of the guys airlifted)

All methods of increasing hp will work these days. Basiclly comes down to choice. I like to have the hp all the time, not just when the bottle is 1/2 to full. Below 1/2bottle power drops off fast. I also LOVE the sound of a blower

 

Amen...

 

find the one for 1800$ for me. if it is a complete kit like from procharger and in good shape, i will buy it right now.