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ram vs cold air intakes??? whats better???

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Old 12-03-2009 | 02:16 AM
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firebird=transam pretty much
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 06:07 AM
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Ramair is a poor mans supercharger & turbo Ran a ramair setup for 4yrs before getting a Procharger. 4x2 & wanting lots of power, ramair will give best results.
Ramair generally has twin, large ducts, feeding a large round filter ontop of a tb or carb.
CAI have cone filter (inefficient compared to round filter) & a single tube. If you offroad & are a submarine driver like Audiodoggy then you want a snorkel not ramair lol.

If you want the best ramair setup, go to www.ramairbox.com & get their twin ducted 110* 3" airbox, 1/2" drop base & lid & a 14x3" K&N as well as 2-4"alum ducts from homedepot. When I had a bone stock 5.9 from tb down, but all the bolt ons including the ramairbox, my Indy ran a 13.99 best 1/4m as well as a 60' best of 1.91. Shocked a lot of Ford Lightnings (supercharged ones) as well as Stangs, Camaro's & the odd Vette now & then (beat a few pre 00 Vettes)

Little history

64 Ford Thunderbolt is the first factory car with true ramair as far as I know. Fairlane body had 4headlights at the time. The Thunderbolt only had lights in the 2 outside spots. The inside headlight openings were used to supply air to twin 6" ducts (IIRC) going into a filterbox ontop of the 427's carb. Ive got a picture of one from a car show years ago somewhere but couldnt find it. Found these pics from musclecars.http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...hunderbolt.htm. It was your basic factory drag car lol



This is the setup I ran from ramairbox.com. Air went into the ducts from the bumper foglight openings. Quite similar to the Thunderbolts setup just a bit smaller



Most recent vehicle that actually relates to us that came with ramair was a Chevy p/u. AWD 6.1L Silverado SS came with ramair from the factory, thats the ducts on the corners of the bumper.
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 11:23 AM
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i looked at that ram air setup.. looks nice and better be for 300 bones
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 11:39 AM
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im not a fan of the dryer duct, you would think for the money, it would come with aluminum tubing, heres a similar box on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dual-...Q5fAccessories
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 12:25 PM
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why get a cai with our trucks...the air is just going to get warm as soon as it enter the intake man... and if you really wanted a cai.. why not make one the passes the air over ice.. or dry ice to make the income air temp really cold? or keep your air filter in the freezer and put it on before you leave the house... Why do people still post about air intakes?! there are like a million threads on this already!!!!!!

Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 12:32 PM
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This is new to me. After looking at how this works, is there some kind of mechanism that prevents water from entering the intake using a ram air system? To me, that looks like it's quite possible to end up with water being sucked up into the intake thus killing the engine. What happens when one hits a rather large puddle? Is there some kind of one way valve that keeps water out or, some other kind of means to prevent this from happening?

Reason I ask is, I can see the benefit of this type of system as it's clearly obvious but, is this safe to use in water soaked environments? (excluding off road use) But, after a huge storm, there's usually huge puddles. I would not feel comfortable running the air intakes at the bumper level personally.
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iwhitne
why get a cai with our trucks...the air is just going to get warm as soon as it enter the intake man... and if you really wanted a cai.. why not make one the passes the air over ice.. or dry ice to make the income air temp really cold? or keep your air filter in the freezer and put it on before you leave the house... Why do people still post about air intakes?! there are like a million threads on this already!!!!!!

Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
That's what they used to do - dry ice that is. They had insulated boxes that sat in the engine bay that were filled with dry ice. They ran the inlets through the box to drop the air temp back in the 70s. I just ran into an older motor guy in his late 60s and, he was telling me that they used to do this in his time.

A thought would be to put AC in a iso-box in a closed loop. Use a sealed CAI intake that uses nothing but insulated Al tubing and run it from the fender well and into the box then into the TB. That would work and, it would always stay cool no matter what. You could even control the air temp from inside the cab if so desired.
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 01:02 PM
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what about condensation getting into the intake? rust? ect...?
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 01:36 PM
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the ac setup has been thought of and denied.. as it would need power to make more power.. problem is the gain you could see with it would not be worth the power lose of using the ac and the resulting parisitic drag.....

on another hand their is a company out their that makes a system called cryo uses a nitrious or co2 bottle and uses to spray an intercooler or has a pipe you add to a intake system and blows the very cold air around it wich is suppose to give you a boost... and no matter what a cai will still work even with our systems even the the air will get heated up it is still pulling in colder air then it was stock.
 
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Old 12-03-2009 | 02:05 PM
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heres what the ricers run to prevent hydrolock.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AIR-F...Q5fAccessories


watched a vid not long ago where a guy tested it with his car, revved it up and dunked the filter in a bucket of water, bogged the engine down, not getting enuff air, but didnt suck a drop of water.....heres what i got for spinnin 5 grand thru water



when i had this

 


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