ram vs cold air intakes??? whats better???
#12
Ramair is a poor mans supercharger & turbo Ran a ramair setup for 4yrs before getting a Procharger. 4x2 & wanting lots of power, ramair will give best results.
Ramair generally has twin, large ducts, feeding a large round filter ontop of a tb or carb.
CAI have cone filter (inefficient compared to round filter) & a single tube. If you offroad & are a submarine driver like Audiodoggy then you want a snorkel not ramair lol.
If you want the best ramair setup, go to www.ramairbox.com & get their twin ducted 110* 3" airbox, 1/2" drop base & lid & a 14x3" K&N as well as 2-4"alum ducts from homedepot. When I had a bone stock 5.9 from tb down, but all the bolt ons including the ramairbox, my Indy ran a 13.99 best 1/4m as well as a 60' best of 1.91. Shocked a lot of Ford Lightnings (supercharged ones) as well as Stangs, Camaro's & the odd Vette now & then (beat a few pre 00 Vettes)
Little history
64 Ford Thunderbolt is the first factory car with true ramair as far as I know. Fairlane body had 4headlights at the time. The Thunderbolt only had lights in the 2 outside spots. The inside headlight openings were used to supply air to twin 6" ducts (IIRC) going into a filterbox ontop of the 427's carb. Ive got a picture of one from a car show years ago somewhere but couldnt find it. Found these pics from musclecars.http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...hunderbolt.htm. It was your basic factory drag car lol
This is the setup I ran from ramairbox.com. Air went into the ducts from the bumper foglight openings. Quite similar to the Thunderbolts setup just a bit smaller
Most recent vehicle that actually relates to us that came with ramair was a Chevy p/u. AWD 6.1L Silverado SS came with ramair from the factory, thats the ducts on the corners of the bumper.
Ramair generally has twin, large ducts, feeding a large round filter ontop of a tb or carb.
CAI have cone filter (inefficient compared to round filter) & a single tube. If you offroad & are a submarine driver like Audiodoggy then you want a snorkel not ramair lol.
If you want the best ramair setup, go to www.ramairbox.com & get their twin ducted 110* 3" airbox, 1/2" drop base & lid & a 14x3" K&N as well as 2-4"alum ducts from homedepot. When I had a bone stock 5.9 from tb down, but all the bolt ons including the ramairbox, my Indy ran a 13.99 best 1/4m as well as a 60' best of 1.91. Shocked a lot of Ford Lightnings (supercharged ones) as well as Stangs, Camaro's & the odd Vette now & then (beat a few pre 00 Vettes)
Little history
64 Ford Thunderbolt is the first factory car with true ramair as far as I know. Fairlane body had 4headlights at the time. The Thunderbolt only had lights in the 2 outside spots. The inside headlight openings were used to supply air to twin 6" ducts (IIRC) going into a filterbox ontop of the 427's carb. Ive got a picture of one from a car show years ago somewhere but couldnt find it. Found these pics from musclecars.http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...hunderbolt.htm. It was your basic factory drag car lol
This is the setup I ran from ramairbox.com. Air went into the ducts from the bumper foglight openings. Quite similar to the Thunderbolts setup just a bit smaller
Most recent vehicle that actually relates to us that came with ramair was a Chevy p/u. AWD 6.1L Silverado SS came with ramair from the factory, thats the ducts on the corners of the bumper.
#14
im not a fan of the dryer duct, you would think for the money, it would come with aluminum tubing, heres a similar box on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dual-...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dual-...Q5fAccessories
#15
why get a cai with our trucks...the air is just going to get warm as soon as it enter the intake man... and if you really wanted a cai.. why not make one the passes the air over ice.. or dry ice to make the income air temp really cold? or keep your air filter in the freezer and put it on before you leave the house... Why do people still post about air intakes?! there are like a million threads on this already!!!!!!
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
#16
This is new to me. After looking at how this works, is there some kind of mechanism that prevents water from entering the intake using a ram air system? To me, that looks like it's quite possible to end up with water being sucked up into the intake thus killing the engine. What happens when one hits a rather large puddle? Is there some kind of one way valve that keeps water out or, some other kind of means to prevent this from happening?
Reason I ask is, I can see the benefit of this type of system as it's clearly obvious but, is this safe to use in water soaked environments? (excluding off road use) But, after a huge storm, there's usually huge puddles. I would not feel comfortable running the air intakes at the bumper level personally.
Reason I ask is, I can see the benefit of this type of system as it's clearly obvious but, is this safe to use in water soaked environments? (excluding off road use) But, after a huge storm, there's usually huge puddles. I would not feel comfortable running the air intakes at the bumper level personally.
#17
why get a cai with our trucks...the air is just going to get warm as soon as it enter the intake man... and if you really wanted a cai.. why not make one the passes the air over ice.. or dry ice to make the income air temp really cold? or keep your air filter in the freezer and put it on before you leave the house... Why do people still post about air intakes?! there are like a million threads on this already!!!!!!
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.. maybe I'll go outside and get a breath of fresh air
A thought would be to put AC in a iso-box in a closed loop. Use a sealed CAI intake that uses nothing but insulated Al tubing and run it from the fender well and into the box then into the TB. That would work and, it would always stay cool no matter what. You could even control the air temp from inside the cab if so desired.
#19
the ac setup has been thought of and denied.. as it would need power to make more power.. problem is the gain you could see with it would not be worth the power lose of using the ac and the resulting parisitic drag.....
on another hand their is a company out their that makes a system called cryo uses a nitrious or co2 bottle and uses to spray an intercooler or has a pipe you add to a intake system and blows the very cold air around it wich is suppose to give you a boost... and no matter what a cai will still work even with our systems even the the air will get heated up it is still pulling in colder air then it was stock.
on another hand their is a company out their that makes a system called cryo uses a nitrious or co2 bottle and uses to spray an intercooler or has a pipe you add to a intake system and blows the very cold air around it wich is suppose to give you a boost... and no matter what a cai will still work even with our systems even the the air will get heated up it is still pulling in colder air then it was stock.
#20
heres what the ricers run to prevent hydrolock.......
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AIR-F...Q5fAccessories
watched a vid not long ago where a guy tested it with his car, revved it up and dunked the filter in a bucket of water, bogged the engine down, not getting enuff air, but didnt suck a drop of water.....heres what i got for spinnin 5 grand thru water
when i had this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AIR-F...Q5fAccessories
watched a vid not long ago where a guy tested it with his car, revved it up and dunked the filter in a bucket of water, bogged the engine down, not getting enuff air, but didnt suck a drop of water.....heres what i got for spinnin 5 grand thru water
when i had this