01 Ram 5.9 Magnum w/ 60k. Good deal?
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01 Ram 5.9 Magnum w/ 60k. Good deal?
I'm new here so bare with me! I'm looking at a 2001 Ram 2500 4x4 with 60k miles and NO (0) rust on it! It's clean!!! It has a 5.9 Magnum! I was wondering is there any problems with the Magnum I should know about? I'm a former diesel guy (can't afford one now) so the gasser is new territory to me! Thanks for reading!
Derek,
Derek,
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What are they asking for it? Is it at a dealership?
Here are a few problems that seem to be more common.
One is what's called the plenum leak. Basically, there is a design flaw that allows oil to get into the intake manifold. Causes your mileage and performance to go into the crapper. It is very fixable for not very much money if your mechanically inclined and want to do it yourself. If not, the dealerships charge an arm and a leg to fix it. To check for it, take the air cleaner off, open the butterflys on the throttlebody with one hand, and look down into the intake manifold plenum with a flashlight. If you see wet pooling oil in the bottom of the intake, then it is likely leaking. I wouldn't avoid a truck just because of this, because it is very fixable. Just something to look for, could give you something to bargain with.
The second common problem you will hear about with these trucks is the auto trans. They tend to have a bad reputation. If it was taken care of, should be fine though, but might want to make sure it has a sound transmission (really something you should be doing no matter what you are buying though in my opinion).
3rd, bolted to the firewall on the passenger side is the computer, called the PCM. Take a look at the front of it and see if it has a sticker on it that says something like "Authorized Chrysler Software Update" or something like that. This is what is known as the deathflash. For a little while, there was a rash of trucks that had a problem with pinging. After getting inondated with complaints, Chrysler released a software flash for the PCM that fixed the pinging, but it causes the truck to have a seriouos lack of performance. Basically detuned the engine horribly. Also fixable, but will cost a couple hundred dollars.
I'm sure others will chime in with things i'm not thinking of. For the most part, these trucks are decent though.
Here are a few problems that seem to be more common.
One is what's called the plenum leak. Basically, there is a design flaw that allows oil to get into the intake manifold. Causes your mileage and performance to go into the crapper. It is very fixable for not very much money if your mechanically inclined and want to do it yourself. If not, the dealerships charge an arm and a leg to fix it. To check for it, take the air cleaner off, open the butterflys on the throttlebody with one hand, and look down into the intake manifold plenum with a flashlight. If you see wet pooling oil in the bottom of the intake, then it is likely leaking. I wouldn't avoid a truck just because of this, because it is very fixable. Just something to look for, could give you something to bargain with.
The second common problem you will hear about with these trucks is the auto trans. They tend to have a bad reputation. If it was taken care of, should be fine though, but might want to make sure it has a sound transmission (really something you should be doing no matter what you are buying though in my opinion).
3rd, bolted to the firewall on the passenger side is the computer, called the PCM. Take a look at the front of it and see if it has a sticker on it that says something like "Authorized Chrysler Software Update" or something like that. This is what is known as the deathflash. For a little while, there was a rash of trucks that had a problem with pinging. After getting inondated with complaints, Chrysler released a software flash for the PCM that fixed the pinging, but it causes the truck to have a seriouos lack of performance. Basically detuned the engine horribly. Also fixable, but will cost a couple hundred dollars.
I'm sure others will chime in with things i'm not thinking of. For the most part, these trucks are decent though.
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they're pretty good trucks. strong. fairly simple. slightly underpowered.
the 2500 is the best model, having dana 60 axles front and rear. this gives you a lot of gearing and locking options.
aggravating dodge crap things that are common.
plenum leak on all of them, cracked dash on most of them, weak transmissions, detuned engine need superchips or other tuner.
if you don't mind spending time and money as required, they're ok. if you are expecting a truck that never needs any maintenance or repairs, this might not be it.
the 2500 is the best model, having dana 60 axles front and rear. this gives you a lot of gearing and locking options.
aggravating dodge crap things that are common.
plenum leak on all of them, cracked dash on most of them, weak transmissions, detuned engine need superchips or other tuner.
if you don't mind spending time and money as required, they're ok. if you are expecting a truck that never needs any maintenance or repairs, this might not be it.
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I agree with everything above other than that about the PCM sticker. It is my understanding that the 2000 and 2001 models came from the factory with the death flash.
Other than their little quarks, these are good solid trucks. They can pull almost anything, they clean up nice and 60,000 miles is very low on a truck that will last hundreds of thousands of miles with the proper care.
Other than their little quarks, these are good solid trucks. They can pull almost anything, they clean up nice and 60,000 miles is very low on a truck that will last hundreds of thousands of miles with the proper care.
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Thanks to all! I've owned a 2003 2500 with the CTD! My buddy has a 1999 2500 with the CTD. Just didn't know much about the 5.9 gasser! Thanks for the info! The used dealer wants $10500. KBB says it's worth $9147. I looked at it yesterday and it is SUPER clean. Rockers, wheel wells in mint condition. Even the infamous stearing box leak is NOT present! I'll find out today if I get it! Thanks again!
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Not all. Mine has a 70 in the rear.
Price sounds a little high. The V8 2500s are considered light duty trucks. The V10 and diesel 2500s are heavier duty. If you tow, you are going to be very disappointed with a V8 2500 coming from a diesel. The V10 can pull anything all day long, but the V8 is a bit anemic at it.
Price sounds a little high. The V8 2500s are considered light duty trucks. The V10 and diesel 2500s are heavier duty. If you tow, you are going to be very disappointed with a V8 2500 coming from a diesel. The V10 can pull anything all day long, but the V8 is a bit anemic at it.
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You need to offer the dealer the kbb value and you would be getting a lot better deal than 10500. Realize that the dealer probably only gave 6500 for it on a trade in or something. I bet you could talk him to 9000 or under... He will tell you he's not making any money but in reality hes making a fortune. I will never buy from a dealer as they over price everything.
Silver my grand pa has 220,000 on his and the only thing he has ever done to it is change spark plugs and wires... The exact reason why my next vehicle will more than likely be a diesel.
Silver my grand pa has 220,000 on his and the only thing he has ever done to it is change spark plugs and wires... The exact reason why my next vehicle will more than likely be a diesel.