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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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How do you have seatbelts?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Racing harness to match the racing buckets, I'd imagine.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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There better not be harnesses in there with no cage.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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depends on the track rules regarding what classification a cage is necessary. you could conceivably mount a harness to the truck until you've reached the need for a cage.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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No, that's just ****ing sketch. You roll that **** with harnesses and no cage, you die. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Your head WILL be separated from its body.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigRedOne
No, that's just ****ing sketch. You roll that **** with harnesses and no cage, you die. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Your head WILL be separated from its body.
So you are of the opinion that a truck with no roll cage is better off with the factory seatbelts?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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With all do respect, I think Blair has been at it long enough to know what he is doing.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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I'm not trying to start a fight, I just don't see what would be wrong with running a racing seat in a slower strip (no offense, RM) vehicle. He's not running sub 10's yet.

At the point those pics were taken, I don't think RM_Indy ran but a tad under 13 seconds. At some point soon, I'm sure a full roll cage is in order, but why not buy the buckets and run them if you want while you're still building up?

I know some of the older rams had a shoulder strap seat belt integrated in the seat, while my 2001 is connected to the frame by the B pillar. I think the frame mount is more secure, but the other way passed safety regs for the govt. at the time, so it is what it is.

Upon roll over of a passenger truck, I believe there's a box that causes the shoulder strap to lock up, would that not also leave someone in the position to be decapitated? The nut strap in the harness is more prone to keep you from slipping downward (keeps you upright for sure), but if you're upside down, your falling out, not sliding down, right? At least the shoulder straps from a harness would keep you from lying crumpled in a heap upside down on the cab roof sliding down the track.

I don't claim to know much about racing at all, but I can't see where a racing harness would be less safe than a standard car seat belt. Perhaps I'm way wrong though, it's happened before.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
I take it you used an electrical gauge?
yes I did, autometer.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
So you are of the opinion that a truck with no roll cage is better off with the factory seatbelts?
Oh yeah.

Originally Posted by aim4squirrels
I'm not trying to start a fight, I just don't see what would be wrong with running a racing seat in a slower strip (no offense, RM) vehicle. He's not running sub 10's yet.

At the point those pics were taken, I don't think RM_Indy ran but a tad under 13 seconds. At some point soon, I'm sure a full roll cage is in order, but why not buy the buckets and run them if you want while you're still building up?

I know some of the older rams had a shoulder strap seat belt integrated in the seat, while my 2001 is connected to the frame by the B pillar. I think the frame mount is more secure, but the other way passed safety regs for the govt. at the time, so it is what it is.

Upon roll over of a passenger truck, I believe there's a box that causes the shoulder strap to lock up, would that not also leave someone in the position to be decapitated? The nut strap in the harness is more prone to keep you from slipping downward (keeps you upright for sure), but if you're upside down, your falling out, not sliding down, right? At least the shoulder straps from a harness would keep you from lying crumpled in a heap upside down on the cab roof sliding down the track.

I don't claim to know much about racing at all, but I can't see where a racing harness would be less safe than a standard car seat belt. Perhaps I'm way wrong though, it's happened before.
What's wrong is that it's a great way to get killed. Buckets are fine and dandy, just not on these trucks. The seatbelts come out of the seat on all? of these trucks I believe. The belts on my 00 are like that. The box you're talking about is called the intertia reel.

Anyways, factory seatbelts are 3 point. These are great for a rollover because in the event that it happens, your body can slide left or right at the hip. If you're strapped in with a harness, and the roof caves in, SURPRISE! You've got nowhere to go. You're stuck in place. Harnesses are only to be used with a full cage, this is because the cage is essentially a bubble within the body. The cage is also the only acceptable mounting point for the seat. This is because when everything goes to hell, you're fully contained within the cage, and everything will shift in unison. A roll cage is essentially a safety bubble.

Back to point if you use harnesses with no cage, God help you in an accident. If you must do this, at least put the verticals behind you, and just run the lap belt.
 

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