Cam Questions
#11
see now thats the lazy mans way out. if you like taking the easy way out you shouldnt be touching or working on a vehicle! i have all the tools i need to correctly work on and fix my truck the first time. i will probly be going with the cam just because the guy at southeast performance was a complete jackhole over the phone telling me that krc performance had junk cams and that sct was a junk tuner. im just trying to decide which cam to go with.
#12
im saying that because the rockers will provide a greater gain for the amount of time you spend on installation, when I do a cam install id rather do my main mods like heads and possible a stroker and do it all together and correct instead of keep tearing into the engine. Also I live in Iowa and this truck is my daily driver in the winter so I dont have the time versus spring time I can drive my bike
#13
im saying that because the rockers will provide a greater gain for the amount of time you spend on installation, when I do a cam install id rather do my main mods like heads and possible a stroker and do it all together and correct instead of keep tearing into the engine. Also I live in Iowa and this truck is my daily driver in the winter so I dont have the time versus spring time I can drive my bike
#14
get the 206x. donnt mess with the 1,7's. i have them and didnt think they are that impressive. though there is a small gain there, and a easy install.
and donnt get the 210x and think you are gonna get a bunch of power on the low end, cause you are not.
krc is now watson performance
and donnt get the 210x and think you are gonna get a bunch of power on the low end, cause you are not.
krc is now watson performance
Last edited by talon6; 12-02-2010 at 12:37 PM.
#15
Never heard of anyone complain about the KRC 206 or 210x, only good things.
Southeast & KRC have never got along, (mostly Southeast badmouthing KRC)
Southeast love selling parts that dont fit for cht.
Buddy got mid tube headers off them, had to notch the frame on his Indy they were cocked to one side of the truck (both headers).
He later bought a deep alum oil pan they said would fit his 5.9/ram, nope.
As soon as we tried lowering the mtr back onto the mounts it hit big time on one side.
Had to get a shop to notch out a big triangular shaped piece the length of the pan.
What is the Hughes 220/233 cam? Not listed
Most of their cams in that range of duro have 544lift which is too much to be able to run a 1.7rr with. 544 is the max without having to valve relief the pistons.
Not familiar with 5.2 valve to piston clearance tbh but if you add a cam with anything over 460 lift then you must change the springs.
KRC 206 has 480/512 IIRC, 210 512 on both so new springs & retainers needed.
Anything over 510L on a 5.9 is about the max with a 1.7rr, not sure on the 5.2s
Southeast & KRC have never got along, (mostly Southeast badmouthing KRC)
Southeast love selling parts that dont fit for cht.
Buddy got mid tube headers off them, had to notch the frame on his Indy they were cocked to one side of the truck (both headers).
He later bought a deep alum oil pan they said would fit his 5.9/ram, nope.
As soon as we tried lowering the mtr back onto the mounts it hit big time on one side.
Had to get a shop to notch out a big triangular shaped piece the length of the pan.
I just installed a Hughes cam with my 1.7's. The only issue I had was to upgrade my springs to handle the added stress with higher lift
If you decide to put a new cam in, I would suggest new lifters, springs, and cam bearings. If you are going to go that deep..... well, lets just say you can spend some cash and go all out, or go cheap and always worry about what you could have or should have done.
If you decide to put a new cam in, I would suggest new lifters, springs, and cam bearings. If you are going to go that deep..... well, lets just say you can spend some cash and go all out, or go cheap and always worry about what you could have or should have done.
Most of their cams in that range of duro have 544lift which is too much to be able to run a 1.7rr with. 544 is the max without having to valve relief the pistons.
Not familiar with 5.2 valve to piston clearance tbh but if you add a cam with anything over 460 lift then you must change the springs.
KRC 206 has 480/512 IIRC, 210 512 on both so new springs & retainers needed.
Anything over 510L on a 5.9 is about the max with a 1.7rr, not sure on the 5.2s
#16
What is the Hughes 220/233 cam? Not listed
Most of their cams in that range of duro have 544lift which is too much to be able to run a 1.7rr with. 544 is the max without having to valve relief the pistons.
Not familiar with 5.2 valve to piston clearance tbh but if you add a cam with anything over 460 lift then you must change the springs.
KRC 206 has 480/512 IIRC, 210 512 on both so new springs & retainers needed.
Anything over 510L on a 5.9 is about the max with a 1.7rr, not sure on the 5.2s
Most of their cams in that range of duro have 544lift which is too much to be able to run a 1.7rr with. 544 is the max without having to valve relief the pistons.
Not familiar with 5.2 valve to piston clearance tbh but if you add a cam with anything over 460 lift then you must change the springs.
KRC 206 has 480/512 IIRC, 210 512 on both so new springs & retainers needed.
Anything over 510L on a 5.9 is about the max with a 1.7rr, not sure on the 5.2s
#18
Gotta agree with this. The springs that are on there now have how many miles on them? The added lift is going to stress them even more, and you could possibly run in to things like valve float..... especially at higher RPM. Not something you want to experience. Putting in springs designed to work with your cam of choice is an extremely good plan, and, while you are right there.... change the valve seals.
#19
#20
install new lifters and springs @ the least with a new cam, push rods and bearings are subject to inspection. Don't be cheap, do it right. Also .520/.533 is the design lift of my cam (actual lift with rockers). Lift, Duration, Overlap, and Ramp Speed are all major considerations. Try to speak with whoever you will purchase the cam from and ask all the questions you can throw @ them. If they want your buisness, then they'll take the time, If not... their loss not yours.