408 stroker build
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Oil pump stay with a standard pump. With tight clearances of a new motor a standard pump will supply enough oil for the RPM'S your turning. Standard pump is high pressure and thats the good thing here. HV is just that, pushing more vol through the system(larger pan,cooler ect)and with a stock pan there isnt any more vol to push. HP loss is min 1-2%.
As for torque wrenches, I'd just go down to sears and pickup 3/8 and 1/2 drive clicker style. There great for the home mechanic and you'll be well under 400 for both.
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Has anyone seen the 408 stroker kits on EBAY? any ideas, comments etc. i have a spare 5.9, and am thinking of building one of these beasts, but would like to keep the cost as low as possible. this build wont be for a year or so, but would like to get all the input and knowledge i can now. also, what are everyones thoughts on edelbrock heads, and the fi air gap intake, and bang for the buck cam? of course it will be tuned by hemifever once its finished.
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Has anyone seen the 408 stroker kits on EBAY? any ideas, comments etc. i have a spare 5.9, and am thinking of building one of these beasts, but would like to keep the cost as low as possible. this build wont be for a year or so, but would like to get all the input and knowledge i can now. also, what are everyones thoughts on edelbrock heads, and the fi air gap intake, and bang for the buck cam? of course it will be tuned by hemifever once its finished.
Eddies are great heads, lots of potential drops 50 lbs off the front too.....Just have the valve stems clearanced...They a little tight.
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Stocker will be a good choice on the pan with minor dimpling up front. Look into a windage tray to keep the oil were it should be. Not whipping around as stroker's do.
Oil pump stay with a standard pump. With tight clearances of a new motor a standard pump will supply enough oil for the RPM'S your turning. Standard pump is high pressure and thats the good thing here. HV is just that, pushing more vol through the system(larger pan,cooler ect)and with a stock pan there isnt any more vol to push. HP loss is min 1-2%.
Blueprinted oil pump's. They take 10 pump's apart to make 1 pump. Along with oem pick-up brazed to pump.
http://stores.precisionoilpumps.com/...Categories.bok
EDIT..Do not use the gasket. The main cap oil passage does not line up with the pump. Widdling on the cap can help this restriction.
Oil pump stay with a standard pump. With tight clearances of a new motor a standard pump will supply enough oil for the RPM'S your turning. Standard pump is high pressure and thats the good thing here. HV is just that, pushing more vol through the system(larger pan,cooler ect)and with a stock pan there isnt any more vol to push. HP loss is min 1-2%.
Blueprinted oil pump's. They take 10 pump's apart to make 1 pump. Along with oem pick-up brazed to pump.
http://stores.precisionoilpumps.com/...Categories.bok
EDIT..Do not use the gasket. The main cap oil passage does not line up with the pump. Widdling on the cap can help this restriction.
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thanks for the input guys. i just saw a 426 stroker kit on hughes site. what a beast THAT would be! has anyone built one of these? may end up going that route. there's no replacement for displacement!!
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I'd stay with a 408
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hmmm various oppinions on the HV pump...
you really trust a craftsman microtorque w/ engine internals?
are you sure the pumps come w/ a pickup? is the gasket not on OEM gasket? why not?
i just realized when i got my new brass intermediate shaft bushing that there is groove cut all the way down the inside of it, what direction does the groove face?
you really trust a craftsman microtorque w/ engine internals?
are you sure the pumps come w/ a pickup? is the gasket not on OEM gasket? why not?
i just realized when i got my new brass intermediate shaft bushing that there is groove cut all the way down the inside of it, what direction does the groove face?
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I use craftsman tools at home, for everything. I love my microtorque wrenches.
My oil pump did NOT come with a pickup. Its a simple matter to swap em over though. They thread into the pump. Really easy.
My stock pump did NOT have a gasket. My aftermarket pump had a paper gasket. All looked reasonably well aligned, so, I installed the gasket as well.
I don't think it matters which way the groove faces. So long as there isn't a hole that needs to be aligned with an oil gallery. It is just to let oil flow all the way down the bushing.
My oil pump did NOT come with a pickup. Its a simple matter to swap em over though. They thread into the pump. Really easy.
My stock pump did NOT have a gasket. My aftermarket pump had a paper gasket. All looked reasonably well aligned, so, I installed the gasket as well.
I don't think it matters which way the groove faces. So long as there isn't a hole that needs to be aligned with an oil gallery. It is just to let oil flow all the way down the bushing.
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yea no hole, just a groove.
ok ill take your word for it and pick up a 3/8 and 1/2 microtorque from sears tomorrow.
any idea what all the hype is over these blueprint pumps? still hung on whether to get an HV or SV pump...
ok ill take your word for it and pick up a 3/8 and 1/2 microtorque from sears tomorrow.
any idea what all the hype is over these blueprint pumps? still hung on whether to get an HV or SV pump...
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I couldn't find a torque wrench that would go low enough at Sears.... they should have one on their website though..... for the low inch-pound settings, probably going to have to go to quarter inch drive.... not sure on that... see what they got.
Your engine is new..... just go with the standard volume pump. It will be more than adequate to the task, and will eat up less power.
Your engine is new..... just go with the standard volume pump. It will be more than adequate to the task, and will eat up less power.