2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

Timing Chain

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-23-2012, 11:18 AM
i mow grass's Avatar
i mow grass
i mow grass is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Timing Chain

I have been working on my plenum project for about a week now due to lack of daylight in the evenings. I am finally about ready to button everything back up. However I am going to do my water pump today after work and was wondering is there any way for me to check the timing chain without opening up the cover?

I have never done a timing chain before and I am just afraid I will mess something up if I try to tackle it(like jump time etc.). Would the $50 autozone kit be sufficent enough as a replacement and actually give me a noticable difference in power if the chain is loose?

The truck has 154k on it and the plenum was not blown when I went to replace it, so I am just wondering if there is a way to inspect it or should I just tackle it and be done with it.

Thanks Again
 
  #2  
Old 02-23-2012, 11:38 AM
SilverSS's Avatar
SilverSS
SilverSS is offline
Captain
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I would just do it and be done with it. I bought a comp cams double roller for $45. I don't know what brand timing set autozone has but I bought a sa gear timing set from advance for my trans am and it was garbage. Had to take everything back off to replace it again. Not something I really wanted to do twice.
 
  #3  
Old 02-23-2012, 11:45 AM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 82,517
Likes: 0
Received 3,390 Likes on 3,130 Posts
Default

I got the SA gear timing set for my truck, and it seemed like a quality piece? Installed with no problems.

If you want to check it..... roll the engine over until the timing mark is on the zero on the scale. Take off the distributor cap, now, turn the engine backwards until the rotor starts to move. Anything more than ten degrees (some say seven...) is too much. Time to replace it.
 
  #4  
Old 02-23-2012, 11:45 AM
i mow grass's Avatar
i mow grass
i mow grass is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Dang, I was hoping I could pick up something local of decent quality. I was trying to get this finished up tonight.
 
  #5  
Old 02-23-2012, 12:08 PM
UnregisteredUser's Avatar
UnregisteredUser
UnregisteredUser is offline
Grand Champion
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Meeker, CO
Posts: 5,011
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

To check without tearing into the guts: Pop off the distributor cap, turn the engine clockwise via the crank pulley nut to bring the rotor around to point generally toward the front of the truck. Then, keeping an eye on the rotor (probably requires a helper), turn the engine counterclockwise until the rotor just begins to move, indicating that the chain slack has been taken up. If you've got to go more than about ten degrees of arc to make the rotor move (take the slack out of the chain) the chain is out of spec. The spec is just 1/8" of slack, and at 154k miles you'll certainly see more than that.

Caveat: You're not supposed to turn the crankshaft backwards. It will cause your refrigerator to catch fire and make your cat's *** itch fiercely.

Update: Ninja'd by HeyYou again! That's what I get for taking time out to talk to the wife between loading the page and answering the question.
 
  #6  
Old 02-23-2012, 12:21 PM
i mow grass's Avatar
i mow grass
i mow grass is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Are any of the big box store timing chains of any quality at all? Or do I just need to order one?
 
  #7  
Old 02-23-2012, 12:41 PM
SilverSS's Avatar
SilverSS
SilverSS is offline
Captain
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HeyYou
I got the SA gear timing set for my truck, and it seemed like a quality piece? Installed with no problems
Maybe it's OK for the Dodge's then. The Lt1 in my trans am sounded like I put a gear drive in it when I fired it up. I'm pretty sure the problem was the cam gear. The water pump is driven off a gear on the back of the cam gear. Maybe it was cut wrong. I don't know for sure but I'll never get another one to find out lol.
 
  #8  
Old 02-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Wombat Ranger's Avatar
Wombat Ranger
Wombat Ranger is offline
Grand Champion
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wild West
Posts: 5,672
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by i mow grass
Are any of the big box store timing chains of any quality at all? Or do I just need to order one?
Do you live near Atlanta?
 
  #9  
Old 02-23-2012, 12:53 PM
i mow grass's Avatar
i mow grass
i mow grass is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I live about 2hrs away just outside of Chattanooga
 
  #10  
Old 02-23-2012, 01:01 PM
i mow grass's Avatar
i mow grass
i mow grass is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HeyYou
I got the SA gear timing set for my truck, and it seemed like a quality piece? Installed with no problems.

If you want to check it..... roll the engine over until the timing mark is on the zero on the scale. Take off the distributor cap, now, turn the engine backwards until the rotor starts to move. Anything more than ten degrees (some say seven...) is too much. Time to replace it.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...6_R%7CGRP60010

Is this what you got HeyYou?
 


Quick Reply: Timing Chain



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:09 PM.