Brake Lights Not Working - Crap!!
Installing the New Brake Light Switch
- Look at the small lever located on top of the new switch. The lever slides to one side to engage the switch plunger. Make sure not to move this lever until the end of the installation.
- Plug in the new switch electrical connector.
- Depress the brake pedal with one hand and, with your free hand, install the switch in its release position in its mounting bracket.
- Turn the switch about 30 degrees clockwise until it snaps in place and let go of the brake pedal.
- Slide the small lever on top of the brake light switch to engage the switch plunger.
- Install the lower panel, hood release lever, parking brake release lever and Data Link Connector, using the ratchet, ratchet extension and socket.
- Attach the lower column cover with the Phillips-head screwdriver.
- I didn't see a lever - I'll have a second look at the switch.
- Connector fits fine, and is out of the way.
- Brake depresses fine, although it is a pain in the posterior to do so, with head and hands under the dash.
- I can not turn the switch - there's the snag - the steering column is in the way, and forces to switch to lose alignment, before it can be turned the full 30 degrees. Am I supposed to turn it "top over" to the passenger's side, or over to the driver's side?
(The way the mounting hole is cut, and the way that part of the switch fits in the hole makes me think I have it oriented correctly. That is to say, there is a very small tab on the switch "collar", if you will, that seems made to fit in the hole, aligning the tab with the notch in the mounting hole. It looks like it should, and I have been assuming it turns to the passenger, but I don't want to break it, turning it the wrong way.)
I guess I'll get under there and have another look at how the two fit together. It's hard to see, due to problems with vision, and how close the switch is to my face.
- Any idea which direction I'll be turning that lever, assuming I can find it?
With your free hand, turn the brake switch about 30 degrees counterclockwise
**sigh** My brain hurts.
The instructions you posted say CW, and you are saying CCW.
Chilton says CW as well, but we know how I feel about Chilton.
Here are some pictures I took, that may help clarify things - at least I hope so.
In this picture, you can see the notch I am talking about:

This is the new one, ready to insert and twist (note the tab to fit the notch on the mounting hole):

Here's another view of the new one:

Here's the old one:


I guess I should just shove it in, and turn it CCW - it's all that's left, as far as I can tell. I suppose I can go get another, if I have to.
BTW, I was invited to a tea party by a very
eccentric man in a very large, and very odd hat.
He said his friends the cat and the rabbit, and some
blonde chick are all coming over for a gathering.
I think I will go.
Would you advise top coat and tails, or just a sports jacket?
~ Blank Stare
The instructions you posted say CW, and you are saying CCW.
Chilton says CW as well, but we know how I feel about Chilton.
Here are some pictures I took, that may help clarify things - at least I hope so.
In this picture, you can see the notch I am talking about:

This is the new one, ready to insert and twist (note the tab to fit the notch on the mounting hole):

Here's another view of the new one:

Here's the old one:


I guess I should just shove it in, and turn it CCW - it's all that's left, as far as I can tell. I suppose I can go get another, if I have to.
BTW, I was invited to a tea party by a very
eccentric man in a very large, and very odd hat.
He said his friends the cat and the rabbit, and some
blonde chick are all coming over for a gathering.
I think I will go.
Would you advise top coat and tails, or just a sports jacket?
~ Blank Stare
I would have to crawl under dash to look. Can't tell too much.
Instructions I posted said counterclockwise. I cut and pasted in the second post.....
I have not changed this out, only found instructions. Wish I could be more help.
Instructions I posted said counterclockwise. I cut and pasted in the second post.....
I have not changed this out, only found instructions. Wish I could be more help.
I think I need more tea.
I can get the switch in position if I lay on the floor, and (with my shoulder) put all my weight on the brake pedal.
But I just can't get the bugger to turn, in either direction.
I guess I need smaller hands, or something. I can barely grip it on more than one side, to attempt the twist.
I don't think I have ever experienced a part more difficult to REMOVE, than this one is to install, and I have never experienced an automotive part even half this challenging to install.
Back with an update, when I have something noteworthy. In the meantime, I won't pester you guys - I know there's a million other posts from people that need your help.
There's a cigar party at the catepiller's place this afternoon. I'm looking forward to some stress relief...
~ Blank Stare
I can get the switch in position if I lay on the floor, and (with my shoulder) put all my weight on the brake pedal.
But I just can't get the bugger to turn, in either direction.
I guess I need smaller hands, or something. I can barely grip it on more than one side, to attempt the twist.
I don't think I have ever experienced a part more difficult to REMOVE, than this one is to install, and I have never experienced an automotive part even half this challenging to install.
Back with an update, when I have something noteworthy. In the meantime, I won't pester you guys - I know there's a million other posts from people that need your help.
There's a cigar party at the catepiller's place this afternoon. I'm looking forward to some stress relief...
~ Blank Stare
BUT...
Here's the answer to the install problem:
In the very earliest stages of trying to mount the switch, I must have given the black twistable part of the switch a 30 degree turn, leaving it in the locked, installed position.
When I took gdstock's suggestion, and turned it CCW, it clicked, but would not stay in the bracket. Assuming I had broken the switch, I decided to futz with it, to see what I could learn.
Then I held it side by side with the old switch. The black plastic parts were no longer both in the same positions, relative to each other.
So I climbed back under, and shoved it in hard, and gave it a CW twist. It did not make any discernible sound, but it did stay mounted. Also, where the brake lights are always on, until the brake switch is correctly mounted, the brake lights are no longer staying on.
Now, all I need is that aforementioned helper, to make sure they work when the pedal is depressed. (If not, I'll get IT some Prosac.) If it all checks out, I get to reassemble my dash, along with copper tubing, regulator, pressure gauges, on/off/manual over ride power switches...WHEEEE...
I am going to go ahead and declare victory, with a huge hand to everyone that helped steer me to success. I couldn't afford to hire a wrench, and there's no way I would have even found the problem, without your gentle guidance.
All I wish was that I had checked the right fuse, in the very beginning. A three minute fix would have sure beat this 6-day odyssey.
Now, if I can just find my way back to that rabbit hole...
~ Blank Stare







