46RE slipping after filter/fluid/gasket
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Your symptoms sounds just like sucking air. My concern is that you're unable to afford a rebuild, but instead of taking a peak at that filter installation which is almost free you're driving the thing just begging it to fail completely.
If I were in your shoes, I'd pick up the largest disposable roasting pan they've got at the supermarket and very carefully drop the pan so it drains into it. Unless it's cooked, you can just reuse that same fluid which is about half new since your fluid change. It's cheap and relatively easy, and a helluva lot better than just waiting around for the thing to grenade.
If I were in your shoes, I'd pick up the largest disposable roasting pan they've got at the supermarket and very carefully drop the pan so it drains into it. Unless it's cooked, you can just reuse that same fluid which is about half new since your fluid change. It's cheap and relatively easy, and a helluva lot better than just waiting around for the thing to grenade.
After I rebuilt and installed my tranny I had to go back into it a couple of times (because I am a slow learner). I used filters from a automotive paint supply place to strain the ATF coming out and strained it again before putting it back in. Did this about 3 times. Key is keeping crap from under truck from falling into it and having installed a drain plug.
Torque wrenches are not too expensive nowadays, and well worht the investment. From memory, 1/4" screws and bolts torque toabout 7 or 8 ft pounds. I's check manual t be sure. May need to hammer out flange on pan first to get it back to correct shape though.
Gov press sensor and solenoid are about $100 together. I use wittrans.com for parts.
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After I rebuilt and installed my tranny I had to go back into it a couple of times (because I am a slow learner). I used filters from a automotive paint supply place to strain the ATF coming out and strained it again before putting it back in. Did this about 3 times. Key is keeping crap from under truck from falling into it and having installed a drain plug.
Torque wrenchs are not too expensive nowadays, and well worht the investment. From memory, 1/4" screws and bolts torque toabout 7 or 8 ft pounds. I's check manual t be sure. May need to hammer out flange on pan first to get it back to correct shape though.
Gos press sensor and solenoid are about$100 together. I use wittrans.com for parts.
Torque wrenchs are not too expensive nowadays, and well worht the investment. From memory, 1/4" screws and bolts torque toabout 7 or 8 ft pounds. I's check manual t be sure. May need to hammer out flange on pan first to get it back to correct shape though.
Gos press sensor and solenoid are about$100 together. I use wittrans.com for parts.
I have used paint filters too for filtering the ATF fluid... after being foolish enough to replace 6 quarts the first time I dropped the pan only to drive it a straight to the shop to be rebuilt and have that fluid dumped...
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Think how pressed for time you'll be when the transmission grenades and the truck she no go no more.
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Yeah, im still workin that one out. Im going to see hoe much a rebuild will cost at a local tranny shop that specializes in chrysler trannies. I get paid next thursday and a friend of mine said they will loan me some money. Hopefully i can get it rebuilt sooner than i had expected
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I would NOT take it in and just ask for a rebuild if you dont have to? Just take it in and tell them what your issues are with it and see what they say.
If you have the option which most of us do not. Drive something else until it is fixed. As previously mentioned it should not have caused an issue just by changing the fluid, but it will almost certainly grenade if you keep driving it in this condition.
If you have the option which most of us do not. Drive something else until it is fixed. As previously mentioned it should not have caused an issue just by changing the fluid, but it will almost certainly grenade if you keep driving it in this condition.
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hold on.
let me see if i've got this right - your transmission was working perfect before, and you did a fluid and filter change ONLY, and did NOT F*** with the bands or anything else, and now its slipping like hell. right?
and you swear you haven't adjusted the bands.
i would start over. if money is an issue and the trans pan is not covered in mud, you can catch the fluid and reuse it. spray the outside of the trans pan with brake cleaner and wipe it down so its completely clean. then drop the pan and catch the fluid in a big CLEAN rubbermaid. strain it through a paint filter, coffee filter, or clean cloth.
replace filter, double check alignment, no obstruction, etc.
strain and measure the collected fluid. your 97 46RE should take about 6 quarts to refill. if you have less than that, i don't think you've got it full.
based on your description that it was working perfect before, my advice is to leave the bands alone, and try to identify only what has changed. do not make matters worse by adjusting things you're not comfortable with, or don't fully understand. (no offense).
let me see if i've got this right - your transmission was working perfect before, and you did a fluid and filter change ONLY, and did NOT F*** with the bands or anything else, and now its slipping like hell. right?
and you swear you haven't adjusted the bands.
i would start over. if money is an issue and the trans pan is not covered in mud, you can catch the fluid and reuse it. spray the outside of the trans pan with brake cleaner and wipe it down so its completely clean. then drop the pan and catch the fluid in a big CLEAN rubbermaid. strain it through a paint filter, coffee filter, or clean cloth.
replace filter, double check alignment, no obstruction, etc.
strain and measure the collected fluid. your 97 46RE should take about 6 quarts to refill. if you have less than that, i don't think you've got it full.
based on your description that it was working perfect before, my advice is to leave the bands alone, and try to identify only what has changed. do not make matters worse by adjusting things you're not comfortable with, or don't fully understand. (no offense).
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I would NOT take it in and just ask for a rebuild if you dont have to? Just take it in and tell them what your issues are with it and see what they say.
If you have the option which most of us do not. Drive something else until it is fixed. As previously mentioned it should not have caused an issue just by changing the fluid, but it will almost certainly grenade if you keep driving it in this condition.
If you have the option which most of us do not. Drive something else until it is fixed. As previously mentioned it should not have caused an issue just by changing the fluid, but it will almost certainly grenade if you keep driving it in this condition.
hold on.
let me see if i've got this right - your transmission was working perfect before, and you did a fluid and filter change ONLY, and did NOT F*** with the bands or anything else, and now its slipping like hell. right?
and you swear you haven't adjusted the bands.
let me see if i've got this right - your transmission was working perfect before, and you did a fluid and filter change ONLY, and did NOT F*** with the bands or anything else, and now its slipping like hell. right?
and you swear you haven't adjusted the bands.
All i did was drop the pan, unbolt the filter, bolt the new filter in, wipe the pan flange down and scrape the old gasket off, bolt the pan back up, filled it with fluid, and that was that. At first i put 5qts in it, but then it acted low in fluid so i put another Qt in. Then i noticed the problem i have currently.
i would start over. if money is an issue and the trans pan is not covered in mud, you can catch the fluid and reuse it. spray the outside of the trans pan with brake cleaner and wipe it down so its completely clean. then drop the pan and catch the fluid in a big CLEAN rubbermaid. strain it through a paint filter, coffee filter, or clean cloth.
replace filter, double check alignment, no obstruction, etc.
strain and measure the collected fluid. your 97 46RE should take about 6 quarts to refill. if you have less than that, i don't think you've got it full.
based on your description that it was working perfect before, my advice is to leave the bands alone, and try to identify only what has changed. do not make matters worse by adjusting things you're not comfortable with, or don't fully understand. (no offense).
replace filter, double check alignment, no obstruction, etc.
strain and measure the collected fluid. your 97 46RE should take about 6 quarts to refill. if you have less than that, i don't think you've got it full.
based on your description that it was working perfect before, my advice is to leave the bands alone, and try to identify only what has changed. do not make matters worse by adjusting things you're not comfortable with, or don't fully understand. (no offense).
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It's entirely too early in this crisis to panic. Salvage the new fluid and take a peek inside. Drop that new filter and inspect it. But don't go changing things (except perhaps to install your shiny new filter). Right now you have one problem -- go in there fingerpoken und mittengrabben and you might make it two or three, which would things inordinately difficult to figure out.
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I hadnt planned on fiddling with anything unless you more experienced guys had a solution to this if it was a common problem.
Im going over to a friends house tonight, he has a shop with access to better tools and a way to catch the old fluid.
If the filter isnt the problem then im just going to sac-up and have it rebuilt. But if it is then ill be good for a little while. I still want to have it rebuilt sometime, so i can sell it and not have a guilty conscience about pawning it off on someone.
Im going over to a friends house tonight, he has a shop with access to better tools and a way to catch the old fluid.
If the filter isnt the problem then im just going to sac-up and have it rebuilt. But if it is then ill be good for a little while. I still want to have it rebuilt sometime, so i can sell it and not have a guilty conscience about pawning it off on someone.