quick add-a-leaf question
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quick add-a-leaf question
i ordered an add a leaf for my 97 ram and i was under my truck spraying all the nuts and bolts with some pb blaster. the description for the aal says it'll add 1.5-2 inches and i don't think there were that many threads on the U bolts.
Do i need new u bolts for the AAL?
Do i need new u bolts for the AAL?
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if you reconsider on the AAL and want payload without added lift or unloaded ride change, look at the timbren rubber helper springs. they're awesome.
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...installed.html
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...installed.html
#6
It is typically frowned upon to reuse u-bolts, even if you have enough threads. The problem is that factory u-bolts have rolled threads, not cut threads. This is done so that the first time a nut is torqued on the threads, the threads will mold into the nut. This greatly increases the contact surface area and tension between the threads on the bolt and the nut, thereby improving the nuts ability to hold the same torque and not back off over time. Once you undo the nut though, the thread is not restored. So retorquing a u-bolt results in a less secure fit the second time, even at the same torque. This means that over time, the nut is more likely to come loose. Secondly, the bolt itself can actually stretch when torqued the first time. It is intended to do this. It does not compress back when the nut is taken off though. So if you reuse the bolt, torquing it again stretches it again. Over time, this can make the bolt weaker.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
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if you reconsider on the AAL and want payload without added lift or unloaded ride change, look at the timbren rubber helper springs. they're awesome.
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...installed.html
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...installed.html
It is typically frowned upon to reuse u-bolts, even if you have enough threads. The problem is that factory u-bolts have rolled threads, not cut threads. This is done so that the first time a nut is torqued on the threads, the threads will mold into the nut. This greatly increases the contact surface area and tension between the threads on the bolt and the nut, thereby improving the nuts ability to hold the same torque and not back off over time. Once you undo the nut though, the thread is not restored. So retorquing a u-bolt results in a less secure fit the second time, even at the same torque. This means that over time, the nut is more likely to come loose. Secondly, the bolt itself can actually stretch when torqued the first time. It is intended to do this. It does not compress back when the nut is taken off though. So if you reuse the bolt, torquing it again stretches it again. Over time, this can make the bolt weaker.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
#9
It is typically frowned upon to reuse u-bolts, even if you have enough threads. The problem is that factory u-bolts have rolled threads, not cut threads. This is done so that the first time a nut is torqued on the threads, the threads will mold into the nut. This greatly increases the contact surface area and tension between the threads on the bolt and the nut, thereby improving the nuts ability to hold the same torque and not back off over time. Once you undo the nut though, the thread is not restored. So retorquing a u-bolt results in a less secure fit the second time, even at the same torque. This means that over time, the nut is more likely to come loose. Secondly, the bolt itself can actually stretch when torqued the first time. It is intended to do this. It does not compress back when the nut is taken off though. So if you reuse the bolt, torquing it again stretches it again. Over time, this can make the bolt weaker.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
When I did my AAL, I replaced the u-bolts with longer ones that were custom made by a local suspension shop.
There should be at least 3/4" of ubolt threads past the nut when tqd. Glad your not on the road near me. Buy the right parts for the job.
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obviously if the parts were needed the AAL would come with new U bolts. I only asked if there were enough threads on the factory U bolts for the AAL. If i need new U bolts I will get them but being that I am an auto tech i will make that decision when i do the job.