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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Yeah, just hold the coil wire a bit above the distributor cap, so you can see the connector there, and have someone crank the engine. You should be able to see/hear the spark. (I would NOT recommend holding it with your fingers though, you may test spark by getting yourself a serious jolt. Don't ask me how I know this.)
I know how you know that because I learned it the same way. Not cool!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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OK... Checked for spark at the distributor cap. I could not see or hear a spark. While I was there, I double checked the electrical connections and everything appears tight and secure. I then pulled the plug off the ignition coil and did the same thing. I could not see or hear a spark. Put a volt meter on it and it maxed out (not surprised 1000V max meter).

Checked resistance on the ignition coil... 1.1-1.2 ohms primary and 8.18 k-ohms secondary. The primary is within range according to the manual but the secondary is low. Apparently there are 2 different manufacturers, Diamond (11.3 k-ohms to 15.3 k-ohms) and Toyodenso (11.3 k-ohms to 13.3 k-ohms). I'm note sure which one I have, I could not find it labeled. Regardless 8.18 k-ohms is low but is it too low?.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Shouldn't be.... Check and see if the PCM is controlling the coil. Test light will work, just put it across the terminals in the coil connector.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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I have voltage at the connector. Any other thoughts?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by coby_315
I have voltage at the connector. Any other thoughts?
Here's a thought, did you TDC cyl 1 or 6? Cause you stated you TDCed cyl 1 when Heyyou gave you instructions for TDC cyl 6.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by beeker
Here's a thought, did you TDC cyl 1 or 6? Cause you stated you TDCed cyl 1 when Heyyou gave you instructions for TDC cyl 6.
I guess I'm unsure now... Here was my process...
1. Turn crankshaft around until compression stroke on cylinder 1 with timing mark at 12 o'clock.
2. Turn camshaft around so timing mark is at 6 o'clock with rotor pointing to 6.
3. Install timing chain.
4. Turn crankshaft 360°, rotor points to 1.

Am I off 180°?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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Shouldn't be. I think you did it correctly. Even if you hadn't, that would not give you a no spark condition.

Having power at the coil is only half the battle. Need to know if the PCM is actually trying to fire the coil. That's what the test light test is for.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Moparite
As Moparite has here for you, dot to dot lined up, #1 cylinder Top Dead Center, Valves for #1 cylinder are to be closed completely, install gears and chain. now if you had removed the distributor and oil drive gear from the cam, the drive gear has to be in the correct place in order for you to put the distributor back in the correct place, There is a slot on the top of drive gear the distributor fits into. You can be a tooth off and you can rotate the distributor to the correct spot for number one cylinder the rotor must point to #1 cylinder marked in the casing of distributor. Now #1 cylinder mark in the casing of distributor should be pointing straight down the middle of the engine pointing towards the plenum
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Need to know if the PCM is actually trying to fire the coil. That's what the test light test is for.
OK. Pardon my ignorance. How is this done? Am I just probing the pins inside the plug I checked voltage on?

I want to thank all of you for your help. I know a lot of my questions seem like I may not have a clue, and to be honest, I don't. I can turn a wrench and repair/replace about anything, but when it comes to troubleshooting I'm clueless.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2damnyankee
As Moparite has here for you, dot to dot lined up, #1 cylinder Top Dead Center, Valves for #1 cylinder are to be closed completely, install gears and chain. now if you had removed the distributor and oil drive gear from the cam, the drive gear has to be in the correct place in order for you to put the distributor back in the correct place, There is a slot on the top of drive gear the distributor fits into. You can be a tooth off and you can rotate the distributor to the correct spot for number one cylinder the rotor must point to #1 cylinder marked in the casing of distributor. Now #1 cylinder mark in the casing of distributor should be pointing straight down the middle of the engine pointing towards the plenum
I believe I followed Moparite's diagram and HeyYou's directions. I never removed the distributor or oil drive gear. It started and ran strong, but died about 30 seconds in. Now I'm a little lost.
 
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