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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 01:59 AM
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Well there are plenty of people out there (including me) that will disagree with you.
Not intending to stab too deeply: It's a poor personal choice to know things you haven't put out the effort to learn. It makes life difficult for you and anyone foolish enough to trust you.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Moparite
Well there are plenty of people out there (including me) that will disagree with you. The paper thin piece of steel that was used don't hold up, That's why they leak in the first place. Chrysler had a TSB about it. http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2000/09-05-00.htm Just get a piece of aluminum and use the gasket as a template. You can make one in no time and it's cheaper than what Hughes is selling them for.
Notice that even in the TSB, they replace the gaskets, and the bolts, but do not replace the pan itself.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Also to not distract too much from the OP's thread...

This is an original plenum bolt bottomed out in my plenum...
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It is proof that insufficient clamping force is what causes the gasket to slip. Shorter bolt clamps tighter without bottoming. Either grind off the unthreaded portion of bolt or get 1/4-20 3/4 bolts. Sorry for any hijack.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Anyone else remember when people just argued whether or not the intake manifold bolts were TTY or not?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowfan
Also to not distract too much from the OP's thread...

This is an original plenum bolt bottomed out in my plenum...


It is proof that insufficient clamping force is what causes the gasket to slip. Shorter bolt clamps tighter without bottoming. Either grind off the unthreaded portion of bolt or get 1/4-20 3/4 bolts. Sorry for any hijack.
your fine, so if I ground down the bolts or replaced them with shorter bolts I could get away with not doing the plenum plate?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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If it's not there yet, that photo belongs in the End-all Be-all plenum thread for sure. Not because installing an aluminum plate is a bad thing in and of itself -- if no ancillary harm comes of it the aluminum is as harmlessly pointless as a throttle body spacer, and if a guy wants it he should have it. It's just better for humanity if more of its members have a reality based view of the world.

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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UnregisteredUser
If it's not there yet, that photo belongs in the End-all Be-all plenum thread for sure. Not because installing an aluminum plate is a bad thing in and of itself -- if no ancillary harm comes of it the aluminum is as harmlessly pointless as a throttle body spacer, and if a guy wants it he should have it. It's just better for humanity if more of its members have a reality based view of the world.

Ain't no magic in a pickup truck made of rock and stinky goo. It's all perfectly understandable.
Done. Edited the first post, section dealing with the cause. He had it as dissimilar metals. Not the case. (as has been proved several times over the last couple years)
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by evilemokid94
your fine, so if I ground down the bolts or replaced them with shorter bolts I could get away with not doing the plenum plate?

Yes. You can grind off most of the unthreaded tip of each bolt and it will work perfectly. For prep, clean both the plenum and steel plate mating surfaces down to bare metal. A scotchbrite wet with wd40 works well.

Wipe lightly but thoroughly with alcohol. Coat completely both sides of a new gasket with a thin layer of Black oil resistant Permatex rtv and install to spec according to the service manual.

I put on a rubber glove and massage the rtv all over the gasket leaving no dry spots but no excess to splooge off into the engine or intake.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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Done. Edited the first post, section dealing with the cause.
Dude, you're what makes the 2nd gen forum what it is.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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Dude, you're what makes the 2nd gen forum what it is.
A wretched hive of scum and villainy?
 
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