2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

4.10 vs 4.56 explanation please

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-12-2017, 03:21 PM
jmhd1989's Avatar
jmhd1989
jmhd1989 is offline
Veteran
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 4.10 vs 4.56 explanation please

I was reading the past post on gearing but I would like an explanation of gearing. So what would be the difference in drivability between the 4.10's and 4.56's for me? 5.9L 4x4 285 75 R16 all terrain tires 46RE Transmission 3.92 gears now.

My goal is to help the trucks acceleration, it is such a dog now. It shifts way too soon, goes into overdrive at 35mph when going up hill and flooring it does nothing. In overdrive going 75mph im at 2,000 rpm

I dont tow, or race or anything like at, just looking to make it more practical for driving everyday. I live in a very hill ridden area so its sluggish all the time, bums me out.

thanks all
 
  #2  
Old 07-12-2017, 04:01 PM
jlake4130's Avatar
jlake4130
jlake4130 is offline
Professional
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: AZ
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

With your current tire size (285/75) 4:10 would be the best choice. However, 4:56 would give you more torque off the line but would also raise your rpms to about 2650 on the HWY at 75. If your ever plan to go up a tire size to 35" or larger get 4:56's. If not id go with the 4:10's.
 
  #3  
Old 07-12-2017, 05:22 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 80,777
Likes: 0
Received 3,179 Likes on 2,932 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jlake4130
With your current tire size (285/75) 4:10 would be the best choice. However, 4:56 would give you more torque off the line but would also raise your rpms to about 2650 on the HWY at 75. If your ever plan to go up a tire size to 35" or larger get 4:56's. If not id go with the 4:10's.
jlake pretty much nailed it. Given you already have 3.92's though, I don't think the jump to 4.10s would offer enough benefit for the cost involved. (even if you can do the work yourself.....)

If you tow a lot, then maybe.... but, like he mentioned, if you plan larger tires in the future, 4.56 is definitely where it's at.
 
  #4  
Old 07-12-2017, 08:10 PM
MasonArmstrong's Avatar
MasonArmstrong
MasonArmstrong is offline
Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Top comment is pretty much spot on. Another thing is if the truck is your daily then 4.56s would totally ruin any kind of MPGs your getting now, if that matters to you.
 
  #5  
Old 07-12-2017, 08:49 PM
2bit's Avatar
2bit
2bit is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,362
Received 35 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

It depends on the speed you drive the most. If you spend a lot of time at 75 I'd keep the 392's or get 411's. If you're in the 60-65 range get the 456's. They will definitely help acceleration. My daughter's 87 Chevy has 456's with 33" BFG All terrains on it. If we lived where we ran 75 mph, we'd maybe consider 35" tires next time. It works great where we live. That's the hardest part, none of us know what your daily drive really consists of, or how you drive. A tuner might help with your shift points.
 
  #6  
Old 07-14-2017, 12:52 PM
jmhd1989's Avatar
jmhd1989
jmhd1989 is offline
Veteran
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MasonArmstrong
Top comment is pretty much spot on. Another thing is if the truck is your daily then 4.56s would totally ruin any kind of MPGs your getting now, if that matters to you.
How much worse can it get haha? Im already rocking an average of 10. Depressing....
 
  #7  
Old 07-14-2017, 01:41 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 80,777
Likes: 0
Received 3,179 Likes on 2,932 Posts
Default

You should be able to do better than that.... How old are your O2 sensors?
 
  #8  
Old 07-14-2017, 05:28 PM
jmhd1989's Avatar
jmhd1989
jmhd1989 is offline
Veteran
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HeyYou
You should be able to do better than that.... How old are your O2 sensors?
I assume originals. I have the Magnaflow CAT system on my list to buy along with all new sensors. Right now it has Pacesetter shorty Headers and a Magnaflow Muffler. I keep putting it off because the CAT's come to $740 alone, makes me real depressed to think about what else i could buy with that that would be waaay cooler.
 
  #9  
Old 07-14-2017, 05:29 PM
jmhd1989's Avatar
jmhd1989
jmhd1989 is offline
Veteran
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Anyone here have the 5.9 v8 4x4 with 33's and 4.56's that can give some input on average mpg?
 
  #10  
Old 07-14-2017, 05:51 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 80,777
Likes: 0
Received 3,179 Likes on 2,932 Posts
Default

I have 33's, and 4.56 gears, and a 8.0, and I average around 11......

You should be able to find cats cheaper than that.....
 



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:03 PM.