01 1500 Front End
#11
05-07-2018, 01:40 PM
Google images has a ton of pics of lifts, T and Y steering, etc.
That part pictured is the drag link and goes from passenger side knuckle to pitman arm where there's an adjuster sleeve and another small tie rod.
The hole is for the long tie rod from the drag link to the driver's knuckle. When all are attached it forms a "Y" that it sitting laterally.
That part pictured is the drag link and goes from passenger side knuckle to pitman arm where there's an adjuster sleeve and another small tie rod.
The hole is for the long tie rod from the drag link to the driver's knuckle. When all are attached it forms a "Y" that it sitting laterally.
#12
05-07-2018, 02:14 PM
Record Breaker
#13
05-07-2018, 04:52 PM
I see what's going on. Keep in mind that the following refers to Y steering only. The T steering is its own animal from 98-99 HD models.
There are TWO different types of steering stabilizer designs during the 2nd gen run: 1 has a stud that mounts directly to the driver's inner tie rod (the long one with the hole about center) and the 2nd has no hole as the shock is mounted via 2 ubolts around the tie rod. When and which years this change occurs is ambiguous. Generally speaking, the early 2nd gens (94-97) had the hold/stud design. However, it appears that late late 2nd gens (01-02) also have this according to the pics. Mid-late 2nd gens (98-99) have the ubolt design like mine. Since the ubolts also fit the HD size tie rods, it's possible that Dodge went back to the stud when the HD steering was discontinued in 2000.
That being said, I am wrong as well as OP, "according to the book." The shop is correct as the part listed is indeed the left inner (driver's) tie rod with a hole for the stud mounted shock stabilizer. The right outer (passenger) tie rod has the hole much closer to the ball joint for the left inner to attach. The small tie rod that attaches to the driver inner is listed under "tie rods." The small tie rod that attaches to the pitman arm is called a "center link."
That that being said, you will have to physically go under your truck and see whether you have the stud or ubolt mounted stabilizer. This will determine which tie rod to get as Dodge was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel in 01 closing out the solid axle parts bin.
That that that being said, you will have to get 01 tie rod as the tapers were changed 2000 when going to new knuckles and 2 piston brakes. Do not get older tie rods as they won't seat properly in the knuckles. If you have the ubolt mounted shock, then this will be a lot more tricky. Can you please describe in more detail exactly which side and lenth tie rod you need?
Or just screw it all and get T steering, oh wait, you can't because the tapers are different. What you CAN do is get the 08 OEM T steering which will mod into your knuckles but comes sans grease zerks.
Whew! Got that?
There are TWO different types of steering stabilizer designs during the 2nd gen run: 1 has a stud that mounts directly to the driver's inner tie rod (the long one with the hole about center) and the 2nd has no hole as the shock is mounted via 2 ubolts around the tie rod. When and which years this change occurs is ambiguous. Generally speaking, the early 2nd gens (94-97) had the hold/stud design. However, it appears that late late 2nd gens (01-02) also have this according to the pics. Mid-late 2nd gens (98-99) have the ubolt design like mine. Since the ubolts also fit the HD size tie rods, it's possible that Dodge went back to the stud when the HD steering was discontinued in 2000.
That being said, I am wrong as well as OP, "according to the book." The shop is correct as the part listed is indeed the left inner (driver's) tie rod with a hole for the stud mounted shock stabilizer. The right outer (passenger) tie rod has the hole much closer to the ball joint for the left inner to attach. The small tie rod that attaches to the driver inner is listed under "tie rods." The small tie rod that attaches to the pitman arm is called a "center link."
That that being said, you will have to physically go under your truck and see whether you have the stud or ubolt mounted stabilizer. This will determine which tie rod to get as Dodge was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel in 01 closing out the solid axle parts bin.
That that that being said, you will have to get 01 tie rod as the tapers were changed 2000 when going to new knuckles and 2 piston brakes. Do not get older tie rods as they won't seat properly in the knuckles. If you have the ubolt mounted shock, then this will be a lot more tricky. Can you please describe in more detail exactly which side and lenth tie rod you need?
Or just screw it all and get T steering, oh wait, you can't because the tapers are different. What you CAN do is get the 08 OEM T steering which will mod into your knuckles but comes sans grease zerks.
Whew! Got that?
#14
05-07-2018, 05:13 PM
I see what's going on. Keep in mind that the following refers to Y steering only. The T steering is its own animal from 98-99 HD models.
There are TWO different types of steering stabilizer designs during the 2nd gen run: 1 has a stud that mounts directly to the driver's inner tie rod (the long one with the hole about center) and the 2nd has no hole as the shock is mounted via 2 ubolts around the tie rod. When and which years this change occurs is ambiguous. Generally speaking, the early 2nd gens (94-97) had the hold/stud design. However, it appears that late late 2nd gens (01-02) also have this according to the pics. Mid-late 2nd gens (98-99) have the ubolt design like mine. Since the ubolts also fit the HD size tie rods, it's possible that Dodge went back to the stud when the HD steering was discontinued in 2000.
That being said, I am wrong as well as OP, "according to the book." The shop is correct as the part listed is indeed the left inner (driver's) tie rod with a hole for the stud mounted shock stabilizer. The right outer (passenger) tie rod has the hole much closer to the ball joint for the left inner to attach. The small tie rod that attaches to the driver inner is listed under "tie rods." The small tie rod that attaches to the pitman arm is called a "center link."
That that being said, you will have to physically go under your truck and see whether you have the stud or ubolt mounted stabilizer. This will determine which tie rod to get as Dodge was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel in 01 closing out the solid axle parts bin.
That that that being said, you will have to get 01 tie rod as the tapers were changed 2000 when going to new knuckles and 2 piston brakes. Do not get older tie rods as they won't seat properly in the knuckles. If you have the ubolt mounted shock, then this will be a lot more tricky. Can you please describe in more detail exactly which side and lenth tie rod you need?
Or just screw it all and get T steering, oh wait, you can't because the tapers are different. What you CAN do is get the 08 OEM T steering which will mod into your knuckles but comes sans grease zerks.
Whew! Got that?
There are TWO different types of steering stabilizer designs during the 2nd gen run: 1 has a stud that mounts directly to the driver's inner tie rod (the long one with the hole about center) and the 2nd has no hole as the shock is mounted via 2 ubolts around the tie rod. When and which years this change occurs is ambiguous. Generally speaking, the early 2nd gens (94-97) had the hold/stud design. However, it appears that late late 2nd gens (01-02) also have this according to the pics. Mid-late 2nd gens (98-99) have the ubolt design like mine. Since the ubolts also fit the HD size tie rods, it's possible that Dodge went back to the stud when the HD steering was discontinued in 2000.
That being said, I am wrong as well as OP, "according to the book." The shop is correct as the part listed is indeed the left inner (driver's) tie rod with a hole for the stud mounted shock stabilizer. The right outer (passenger) tie rod has the hole much closer to the ball joint for the left inner to attach. The small tie rod that attaches to the driver inner is listed under "tie rods." The small tie rod that attaches to the pitman arm is called a "center link."
That that being said, you will have to physically go under your truck and see whether you have the stud or ubolt mounted stabilizer. This will determine which tie rod to get as Dodge was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel in 01 closing out the solid axle parts bin.
That that that being said, you will have to get 01 tie rod as the tapers were changed 2000 when going to new knuckles and 2 piston brakes. Do not get older tie rods as they won't seat properly in the knuckles. If you have the ubolt mounted shock, then this will be a lot more tricky. Can you please describe in more detail exactly which side and lenth tie rod you need?
Or just screw it all and get T steering, oh wait, you can't because the tapers are different. What you CAN do is get the 08 OEM T steering which will mod into your knuckles but comes sans grease zerks.
Whew! Got that?
#15
05-07-2018, 09:04 PM
Record Breaker
I want to say that hole is where the steering stabilizer connects and the other end bolts to the axle near the track bar.
Here's one without the hole
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...5667&jsn=10666
Here's one without the hole
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...5667&jsn=10666
Last edited by 2bit; 05-07-2018 at 09:13 PM.
#16
05-07-2018, 09:15 PM
That's the Y steering. So, the joint end goes to what would nominally be the drag link, which has the right tie rod end attached. Other end goes the the left outer tie rod. Yeah, the design changed over time, and I suspect that piece has the hole for the steering stabilizer in it, so they can use on part number for either version of the Y steering. Its also possible that the left inner tie rod, may all well be the right OUTER tie rod for the HD steering........ so, the hole would still be for the steering stabilizer......
#17
05-07-2018, 10:29 PM
That's the Y steering. So, the joint end goes to what would nominally be the drag link, which has the right tie rod end attached. Other end goes the the left outer tie rod. Yeah, the design changed over time, and I suspect that piece has the hole for the steering stabilizer in it, so they can use on part number for either version of the Y steering. Its also possible that the left inner tie rod, may all well be the right OUTER tie rod for the HD steering........ so, the hole would still be for the steering stabilizer......
#18
05-07-2018, 11:39 PM
AHA!
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.
#19
05-08-2018, 10:02 AM
AHA!
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.
#20
05-08-2018, 10:03 AM
AHA!
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.
You have a frankenstiened truck!! Well, why didn't you say so!??!!?
Next time, you should really lead with that . . . .
Whatever year the axles are, that's what you need to buy. No wonder the parts store and we were all confused. And if the year is between 94-99, you can run the T steering. My guess is early 2nd like 94, 95 from the looks of it. But I'd save the money and just order T steering instead of this one tie rod. The Y steering is really only decent up to a certain height and on yours it actually looks like a "Y" which is too tall. You're at its limit.