U Bolt Flip Kit reccomendations?
#21
Well I haven't had time to get this truck back on the lift but I'm obviously striving to increase load capacity (ignoring the fact the rear end is still a 9.25)
I added 2 leafs to the rear pack, one from a first-gen Taco and one from a GM something. I also swapped the lower overload from the factory Dodge to the overload from the Taco spring packs. Toy installs these lower overloads with a negative arch -- I opted to flip it for a slight positive arch.
Anyway, here's a couple shots of how I modify leaf packs. Doesn't mean it's the right way, it's just my way.....and according to SWMBO, my way is never the right way
Rounding the hex head of 3/8" Gr8 bolts for longer center pins
I simply cut the clamps, run them vertically and weld. Old rockcrawler trick to allow the leafs to fan at droop...not that this truck will be flexy or doing any 'crawling....
I added 2 leafs to the rear pack, one from a first-gen Taco and one from a GM something. I also swapped the lower overload from the factory Dodge to the overload from the Taco spring packs. Toy installs these lower overloads with a negative arch -- I opted to flip it for a slight positive arch.
Anyway, here's a couple shots of how I modify leaf packs. Doesn't mean it's the right way, it's just my way.....and according to SWMBO, my way is never the right way
Rounding the hex head of 3/8" Gr8 bolts for longer center pins
I simply cut the clamps, run them vertically and weld. Old rockcrawler trick to allow the leafs to fan at droop...not that this truck will be flexy or doing any 'crawling....
#22
I think what @HeyYou was saying is that for that upper/overload leaf to do anything, you'll need frame-mounted stops for it to bump into when you're heavily loaded. Otherwise, it's just along for the ride. Interestingly, I'm pretty sure I see some on your orange hoist in the background. Install those and you'll be set.
As you can see from the rubbing, the ones on my truck definitely see some use:
As you can see from the rubbing, the ones on my truck definitely see some use:
#23
I think what @HeyYou was saying is that for that upper/overload leaf to do anything, you'll need frame-mounted stops for it to bump into when you're heavily loaded. Otherwise, it's just along for the ride. Interestingly, I'm pretty sure I see some on your orange hoist in the background. Install those and you'll be set.
As you can see from the rubbing, the ones on my truck definitely see some use:
As you can see from the rubbing, the ones on my truck definitely see some use:
I'm getting there, just need more hours in the day.
I'll get close-ups of the brackets I got, they are HEAVILY used to where the rubber is GONE where the leaf contacted. But it was the best I could find affordably....
#24
As I slowly work my way through my list of 1,262,759 things to do, I finally finished this as much as it's gonna be for now.
I'm honestly not sure the upper overloads will ever be engaged with this configuration, which is really just a function of trying to adapt parts where they were never intended AND not having exactly the right parts, ie I'd prefer an actual upper overload spring, not a spring pirated from a GM rear pack that had a relatively heavy arch.
Anyway, this is V1.0 AFAIC and I may tweak it later. I also added 2 leafs to the main pack and the lower overload is now stupid thick (Toyota Taco, as mentioned previously).
In the interest of time I just tapped the frame 3/8-24 for the upper brackets. It's not lost on me that the frame is relatively thin but I don't think the brackets will ever see enough load to stress (3) 3/8-24 bolts ea. The provided backing plates which came with my heavily worn brackets were rusted compliments of WI (pro tip: don't buy used parts from WI!!), plus access to where I needed to be was obstructed inside the framerail on certain holes. Pro tip #2: don't let your twist bit thread itself into your new holes and nearly drill into your poly gas tank.
Now THESE are some heavily worn upper overload brackets. Note where on one the spring was actually grooving THE METAL (gloved finger indicates).
Fear not, once the main pack flattens a bit from the weight of the vehicle the separation at the ends of the upper overload increases. Still, I'm not sure the upper spring will ever see any action. I'll try to get pics with a full tank of water.
I'm honestly not sure the upper overloads will ever be engaged with this configuration, which is really just a function of trying to adapt parts where they were never intended AND not having exactly the right parts, ie I'd prefer an actual upper overload spring, not a spring pirated from a GM rear pack that had a relatively heavy arch.
Anyway, this is V1.0 AFAIC and I may tweak it later. I also added 2 leafs to the main pack and the lower overload is now stupid thick (Toyota Taco, as mentioned previously).
In the interest of time I just tapped the frame 3/8-24 for the upper brackets. It's not lost on me that the frame is relatively thin but I don't think the brackets will ever see enough load to stress (3) 3/8-24 bolts ea. The provided backing plates which came with my heavily worn brackets were rusted compliments of WI (pro tip: don't buy used parts from WI!!), plus access to where I needed to be was obstructed inside the framerail on certain holes. Pro tip #2: don't let your twist bit thread itself into your new holes and nearly drill into your poly gas tank.
Now THESE are some heavily worn upper overload brackets. Note where on one the spring was actually grooving THE METAL (gloved finger indicates).
Fear not, once the main pack flattens a bit from the weight of the vehicle the separation at the ends of the upper overload increases. Still, I'm not sure the upper spring will ever see any action. I'll try to get pics with a full tank of water.
#26
So I had initially given this project a grade of C but with 425 gallons of water in the bed the overloads do just engage at a standstill, meaning they're helping somewhat while driving with a load.
Thus I hereby amend the grade to A-
Unloaded after spring work. 2 leafs added to main pack, lower overload upgraded and upper overload added.
425 gallons water
Front, upper overload
Rear, upper overload
Thus I hereby amend the grade to A-
Unloaded after spring work. 2 leafs added to main pack, lower overload upgraded and upper overload added.
425 gallons water
Front, upper overload
Rear, upper overload
#29
Yep, unknown how long the 9.25 will last but we'll see! It's already got 224k miles on it before I did this, so that's not ideal LOL
Truthfully the way we use this (VERY locally) mis-matched bolt patterns would be fine so if the 9.25 craters I might just drop a 60/70 in the rear only and source two 8-lug wheels
Truthfully the way we use this (VERY locally) mis-matched bolt patterns would be fine so if the 9.25 craters I might just drop a 60/70 in the rear only and source two 8-lug wheels