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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 08:19 PM
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Hey yall. My steering is starting to get to me. I have a reman box.33" tires. Entire front end was replaced awhile ago no death wobble. Wondering if upgraded steering shafts are better then a upgraded box? I can't afford to do both at the moment. Truck is not a daily driver I just like improving it slowly overtime. I hear red head boxes aren't that great . I'm not really wanting to try and "adjust" my steer box don't want to wreck it and really be screwed. Is there better brand then redhead that makes a nice tight box? Mopar is out of the question discontinued
 
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Blue top, Borgeson, likely others, sell remanufactured boxes. Those two ain't cheap, but, they actually replace worn components. (unlike the ones you get from your local parts stores.....) I would have a look, see where you slop is, and go from there.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 08:48 PM
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Blue top, Borgeson, likely others, sell remanufactured boxes. Those two ain't cheap, but, they actually replace worn components. (unlike the ones you get from your local parts stores.....) I would have a look, see where you slop is, and go from there.

I feel like slop Is in the box prob always 2"s of play before tires move lol but I'm used to it by now. It would just feel "safer" if it was tighter . I'm just wondering if the steering shaft upgrades really help with steering quality ?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 08:54 PM
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I feel like slop Is in the box prob always 2"s of play before tires move lol but I'm used to it by now. It would just feel "safer" if it was tighter . I'm just wondering if the steering shaft upgrades really help with steering quality ?
Only if that is where the slop is. Granted, the rag joint ain't the best idea....... They tend to tear, so, they don't "look" bad, but, they ain't tight no more either. Easy to test with two people. Just have one sit in the seat, ignition unlocked, engine not running, and just have 'em rock the steering wheel side to side to the point where it starts to get tight. In the meantime, you are standing there watching stuff move, and seeing where the slop is. If its the box, then changing the shaft isn't going to make much difference.

Adjusting the box really isn't that hard, you just can't get overzealous at it. Get it to tight, and the truck will want to go anywhere BUT straight. That's exciting. (don't ask how I know.....) Either pull the box, and go by the procedure in the service manual, (best choice....) or do your adjustment in small increments, until you like it, or, it gets too tight.

Note: There is actually TWO adjustments detailed in the service manual, one is easy, even on the truck, the other ain't too bad off the truck, but, major pain in the rear on the truck.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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Only if that is where the slop is. Granted, the rag joint ain't the best idea....... They tend to tear, so, they don't "look" bad, but, they ain't tight no more either. Easy to test with two people. Just have one sit in the seat, ignition unlocked, engine not running, and just have 'em rock the steering wheel side to side to the point where it starts to get tight. In the meantime, you are standing there watching stuff move, and seeing where the slop is. If its the box, then changing the shaft isn't going to make much difference.

Adjusting the box really isn't that hard, you just can't get overzealous at it. Get it to tight, and the truck will want to go anywhere BUT straight. That's exciting. (don't ask how I know.....) Either pull the box, and go by the procedure in the service manual, (best choice....) or do your adjustment in small increments, until you like it, or, it gets too tight.

Note: There is actually TWO adjustments detailed in the service manual, one is easy, even on the truck, the other ain't too bad off the truck, but, major pain in the rear on the truck.



Rag joint? Ya ill try that out next warm day with the wife. I tried messing with the adjustment screws on my old jeep before and didn't really see much success. I should just start saving penny's for a new box or just live with it
 
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I had an issue with death wobble, so I ended up rebuilding my whole front end with the exception of the steering box. After all of the front end work was done, I found that the steering box was worn out (even after adjusting it a few times) and needed to be replaced, too. I replaced it with a Borgeson steering box and it made a world of difference. I think Borgeson stopped making steering boxes for 2nd gen Dodge Rams, as it seems as though they had some manufacturing/quality issues with them. While my Borgeson steering box isn't perfect, its still a lot better than the worn out stock box that was on my truck.
 
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I had an issue with death wobble, so I ended up rebuilding my whole front end with the exception of the steering box. After all of the front end work was done, I found that the steering box was worn out (even after adjusting it a few times) and needed to be replaced, too. I replaced it with a Borgeson steering box and it made a world of difference. I think Borgeson stopped making steering boxes for 2nd gen Dodge Rams, as it seems as though they had some manufacturing/quality issues with them. While my Borgeson steering box isn't perfect, its still a lot better than the worn out stock box that was on my truck.




Thanks for the tease lol. I'll have to see if there making boxes anymore
 
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 10:57 PM
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I like my PSC box is heavier duty and weighs more. It's a completely new box and casting according to them.
 
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
I like my PSC box is heavier duty and weighs more. It's a completely new box and casting according to them.
Got a link bud?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
I like my PSC box is heavier duty and weighs more. It's a completely new box and casting according to them.
Still waiting on that write-up, bud.

OP: The biggest difference you will find is replacing the steering gear and getting a good track bar. Tie rods aren't that big of a deal nor are extra add-ons like the gear brace thing. I too have fought steering forever and made a big thread last year with my most recent rebuild. I am soon ordering a new box (my fourth) because it's the second Redhead that has gone bad. Rebuilding my track bar and getting a new set of T bars helped along with new bushings in my Skyjacker control arms but there's still movement in the output shaft of the gear.

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...ring-saga.html
 
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