2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

The NeverEnding Story II: 2001 1500 4x4 9.25 Rear Axle: Pinion Nut

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 12:33 PM
  #1  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Question The NeverEnding Story II: 2001 1500 4x4 9.25 Rear Axle: Pinion Nut

When I took this thing apart, there was no washer under the pinion nut. (I verified because I had videoed me removing the nut, and I went back and watched in slo-mo.)

The nut style/shape was this:


When I bought a new nut from the dealer I received the same style.

From what I remember from all the videos I've watched of disassembly and assembly the nuts were of this type/shape:


And they had a washer.

I've tightened the new nut down to the specified 210 ft-lbs, but haven't yet moved on to the next step of checking the rotating torque using the in-lbs wrench and tightening more if need be.
I haven't moved on because there is still a little bit of front-to-back play when I pull and push on the flange, and I wasn't sure if I needed a washer....???
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 12:50 PM
  #2  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Default

Sorry - forgot to mention:
- old pinion
- reused spacer/crush sleeve shim
- new bearings
- new crush sleeve
 

Last edited by Moonpie; Feb 22, 2023 at 12:58 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 03:56 PM
  #3  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Default

Well, after checking the rotating torque and seeing that it was very loose and not even close, I went ahead with tightening up without a washer. It took forever trying to go a little at a time, but it turns out at the end that I went too far the last time and overtightened.

So it seems that maybe I don't need a washer - but I do now need to go get another crush sleeve (or two) and try again....
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 04:37 PM
  #4  
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
Administrator
Veteran: Air Force
Community Favorite
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 87,483
Likes: 4,223
From: Clayton MI
Default

If you have to take it apart again, wouldn't hurt to check the dodge deal and see if they have a washer layin' about......
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 10:08 PM
  #5  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Default

So you think I should use a washer with that first style of nut that looks like it has a washer built in?
 
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 06:49 AM
  #6  
Moparite's Avatar
Moparite
Grand Champion
Loved
Community Favorite
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,435
Likes: 578
Default

It's called a flange nut, The yellow inside is a thread locker. Both will work the same.
 
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 01:01 PM
  #7  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Default

Sorry, I'm a little slow....

"Flange nut" I get as the name. Thanks for that.

But when you say, "Both will work the same," do you mean that a flange nut needs a washer just like the other nut type does? Or that the flange nut by itself works the same as the other nut + washer? (Or something else that I'm just not understanding?)
 
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 02:09 PM
  #8  
Keith_L's Avatar
Keith_L
Record Breaker
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,430
Likes: 192
From: United States
Default

I'm kinda thinking the flange nut was OEM and what you got was aftermarket so just needs a washer. If your original flange nut didn't have a washer I'd say that's your answer there.
 
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2023 | 02:15 PM
  #9  
HeikIlm's Avatar
HeikIlm
All Star
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 804
Likes: 87
From: Europe
Default

I work with vehicles for living that have tons of flange nuts, and they don't have additional washers under them. Washer is kind of built into the flange nut.
 
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2023 | 07:17 AM
  #10  
Moonpie's Avatar
Moonpie
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 11
From: North Alabama
Default

To clarify, I purchased an OEM replacement from my local dealer, and it is a flange nut.
The one I removed was a flange nut and had no washer.
I know the "rear-end" was replaced shortly after I got the truck many moons ago; but I didn't know enough then and don't remember the details to recall exactly what that entailed.

This whole extended project is my first time ever doing anything with a differential other than replacing gear oil, so I do not have experience to lean on.

Thanks, y'all!
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:56 PM.