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The NeverEnding Story II: 2001 1500 4x4 9.25 Rear Axle: Pinion Nut

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Old 02-21-2023 | 12:33 PM
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Question The NeverEnding Story II: 2001 1500 4x4 9.25 Rear Axle: Pinion Nut

When I took this thing apart, there was no washer under the pinion nut. (I verified because I had videoed me removing the nut, and I went back and watched in slo-mo.)

The nut style/shape was this:


When I bought a new nut from the dealer I received the same style.

From what I remember from all the videos I've watched of disassembly and assembly the nuts were of this type/shape:


And they had a washer.

I've tightened the new nut down to the specified 210 ft-lbs, but haven't yet moved on to the next step of checking the rotating torque using the in-lbs wrench and tightening more if need be.
I haven't moved on because there is still a little bit of front-to-back play when I pull and push on the flange, and I wasn't sure if I needed a washer....???
 
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Old 02-21-2023 | 12:50 PM
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Sorry - forgot to mention:
- old pinion
- reused spacer/crush sleeve shim
- new bearings
- new crush sleeve
 

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Old 02-21-2023 | 03:56 PM
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Well, after checking the rotating torque and seeing that it was very loose and not even close, I went ahead with tightening up without a washer. It took forever trying to go a little at a time, but it turns out at the end that I went too far the last time and overtightened.

So it seems that maybe I don't need a washer - but I do now need to go get another crush sleeve (or two) and try again....
 
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Old 02-21-2023 | 04:37 PM
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If you have to take it apart again, wouldn't hurt to check the dodge deal and see if they have a washer layin' about......
 
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Old 02-21-2023 | 10:08 PM
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So you think I should use a washer with that first style of nut that looks like it has a washer built in?
 
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Old 02-22-2023 | 06:49 AM
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It's called a flange nut, The yellow inside is a thread locker. Both will work the same.
 
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Old 02-22-2023 | 01:01 PM
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Sorry, I'm a little slow....

"Flange nut" I get as the name. Thanks for that.

But when you say, "Both will work the same," do you mean that a flange nut needs a washer just like the other nut type does? Or that the flange nut by itself works the same as the other nut + washer? (Or something else that I'm just not understanding?)
 
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Old 02-22-2023 | 02:09 PM
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I'm kinda thinking the flange nut was OEM and what you got was aftermarket so just needs a washer. If your original flange nut didn't have a washer I'd say that's your answer there.
 
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Old 02-22-2023 | 02:15 PM
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I work with vehicles for living that have tons of flange nuts, and they don't have additional washers under them. Washer is kind of built into the flange nut.
 
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Old 02-23-2023 | 07:17 AM
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To clarify, I purchased an OEM replacement from my local dealer, and it is a flange nut.
The one I removed was a flange nut and had no washer.
I know the "rear-end" was replaced shortly after I got the truck many moons ago; but I didn't know enough then and don't remember the details to recall exactly what that entailed.

This whole extended project is my first time ever doing anything with a differential other than replacing gear oil, so I do not have experience to lean on.

Thanks, y'all!
 



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