Rear Locker
#1
Rear Locker
Hey guys, I have been readin up on rear lockers and searchin around here on the forums and I was just wondering if I could get some more info.
I have a 2007 3.7 slt and I want to add a rear locker to it for better traction when I do ( which is rarely ) go offroad. what do you guys think? Is it worth the money and if it is, what am i lookin at gettin?
Thanks guy
jakerob
I have a 2007 3.7 slt and I want to add a rear locker to it for better traction when I do ( which is rarely ) go offroad. what do you guys think? Is it worth the money and if it is, what am i lookin at gettin?
Thanks guy
jakerob
#2
A locker is the single best thing you can do for off-road performance. Totally worth the money.
There's a few different kinda of lockers, "lunchbox lockers" and full carrier replacement. A lunchbox locker installs in place of the original spider gears meaning the ring and pinion aren't touched and they are cheaper and easier to install. A full carrier replacement replaces the original carrier requiring setting the backslash and carrier bearing preload. they are more expensive and harder to install but are stronger than lunchbox lockers because they do not rely on the stock carrier.
You also can choose between selectable and automatic, selectable lockers can be toggled bewtween open and locked via air, electricity or cable. Automatic lockers lock when sufficient torque (gas) is sent to the rear axle and have their quirks which are pretty easy to adapt to. Luncbox lockers only come in the automatic variety. I personally prefer automatic lockers for the simplicity and I hate open diffs on the street too.
There's a few different kinda of lockers, "lunchbox lockers" and full carrier replacement. A lunchbox locker installs in place of the original spider gears meaning the ring and pinion aren't touched and they are cheaper and easier to install. A full carrier replacement replaces the original carrier requiring setting the backslash and carrier bearing preload. they are more expensive and harder to install but are stronger than lunchbox lockers because they do not rely on the stock carrier.
You also can choose between selectable and automatic, selectable lockers can be toggled bewtween open and locked via air, electricity or cable. Automatic lockers lock when sufficient torque (gas) is sent to the rear axle and have their quirks which are pretty easy to adapt to. Luncbox lockers only come in the automatic variety. I personally prefer automatic lockers for the simplicity and I hate open diffs on the street too.
#5
Ok thanks for the help hahns. Any sites where I can buy a locker? I have been lookin around but you guys seem to have the best deals. I would kind of like one that I could switch on an off but from what i read that would be more expensive? A permanent one wouldn't eat up my tires would it?
Thanks again for the info.
Jake Rob
Thanks again for the info.
Jake Rob
#7
Eaton makes a tru-trac and detroit locker for our trucks. Do you have the 8.25" rear end?
A factory LSD is stupid to buy from the dealer, $1,800.00. The last I checked, I can get the Eaton tru-trac for around $550.00.
A locker will eat up your tires and can get a little weird while driving on dry pavement. Honestly, for what you are looking to do, I would recommend the Eaton LSD. If a company made a selectable diff, that would ultimately be better. However, I can't seem to find an application for our trucks.
A factory LSD is stupid to buy from the dealer, $1,800.00. The last I checked, I can get the Eaton tru-trac for around $550.00.
A locker will eat up your tires and can get a little weird while driving on dry pavement. Honestly, for what you are looking to do, I would recommend the Eaton LSD. If a company made a selectable diff, that would ultimately be better. However, I can't seem to find an application for our trucks.
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#8
Ok thanks donkeypunch.
Could you explain what exactly the difference is between the two. My understandin is that:
- A locker will locker both rear wheels so they spin at the same speed right? Kind of like a tractor?
and
- A LSD makes the wheel with the most traction spin.
example:
If a truck is in sand, with one wheel buried and just spinning, the LSD will engage and put power to the other wheel that is not buried.
Am I right?
Is this what I'm lookin for?
http://shoplive.rompalicious.com/det...=en#googlebase
Thanks again for all the help fellas
Could you explain what exactly the difference is between the two. My understandin is that:
- A locker will locker both rear wheels so they spin at the same speed right? Kind of like a tractor?
and
- A LSD makes the wheel with the most traction spin.
example:
If a truck is in sand, with one wheel buried and just spinning, the LSD will engage and put power to the other wheel that is not buried.
Am I right?
Is this what I'm lookin for?
http://shoplive.rompalicious.com/det...=en#googlebase
Thanks again for all the help fellas
#9
Ok thanks donkeypunch.
Could you explain what exactly the difference is between the two. My understandin is that:
- A locker will locker both rear wheels so they spin at the same speed right? Kind of like a tractor?
and
- A LSD makes the wheel with the most traction spin.
example:
If a truck is in sand, with one wheel buried and just spinning, the LSD will engage and put power to the other wheel that is not buried.
Am I right?
Is this what I'm lookin for?
http://shoplive.rompalicious.com/det...=en#googlebase
Thanks again for all the help fellas
Could you explain what exactly the difference is between the two. My understandin is that:
- A locker will locker both rear wheels so they spin at the same speed right? Kind of like a tractor?
and
- A LSD makes the wheel with the most traction spin.
example:
If a truck is in sand, with one wheel buried and just spinning, the LSD will engage and put power to the other wheel that is not buried.
Am I right?
Is this what I'm lookin for?
http://shoplive.rompalicious.com/det...=en#googlebase
Thanks again for all the help fellas
A locker will not eat your tires because it (automatic lockers) unlocks while cornering as long as you aren't standing on the gas. I've never noticed any extra tire wear in the rear as a result of running a locker. A welded or spooled rearend will eat tires because it never unlocks.
#10
No, a LSD is garbage off-road, it will still transfer the most power to the wheel with the least traction, it doesn't take much off-road for an LSD to go into "one leg" mode and leave you stranded, this includes gear driven LSDs.
A locker will not eat your tires because it (automatic lockers) unlocks while cornering as long as you aren't standing on the gas. I've never noticed any extra tire wear in the rear as a result of running a locker. A welded or spooled rearend will eat tires because it never unlocks.
A locker will not eat your tires because it (automatic lockers) unlocks while cornering as long as you aren't standing on the gas. I've never noticed any extra tire wear in the rear as a result of running a locker. A welded or spooled rearend will eat tires because it never unlocks.
It's true though... lockers will not eat up your tires like a spool, but I have heard from a lot of people who run them that they cause an understeer sensation that a LSD won't.
Don't get me wrong though... I'm not praising limited slip diffs and beating down lockers, cause I would rather have a powertraxx locker, but they aren't crap like a lot of people seem to think, and for a daily driver, they are easier to cope with.
Last edited by 95_318SLT; 07-14-2009 at 05:56 PM.