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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jose13b
use a meter or a good test light strip the wire and then polk the test light through the wire open it up then strip the wire from the harness of the alarm then put the alarm wire in the hole you made with the test light twist around then tape up and zip tie it.
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you can also use t-taps
Yes, you can use either of those techniques, if you want problems with the install.

I can't count how many non functioning remote starters I've removed, because they were either twisted and taped or used T-taps. If they were soldered they would have been functioning fine.

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be careful if you soldered the wires you could apply to much heat
Highly unlikely, unless you use an oxy/acetylene torch to solder with. I've used Weller soldering guns, both the smaller 100/150W and the larger 200/250W models to install car audio, security and remote starters, never once have I applied "too much heat" to a wire.

For larger wires, such as the 4 AWG power wires for amplifiers I will use a propane torch to solder the ends of the wires where they are crimped into the terminal, again, I have never applied "too much heat" to a wire.


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Thanks, I wish I lived closer.

Hmmm... this video looks familiar. I'm pretty sure it came on a VHS with my first remote starter by Directed Electronics.
That would be Bulldog, they are the only company that has supplied install videos with their products. DEI has NEVER supplied such an addition, since they have always recommended a professional install their products.

Speaking of professionals, I suggest you seek one out. The only way I know to put this is blunt, and that is, if you can't identify the main ignition harness, you're going to have a lot of trouble with the other connections you need to make. There are multiple ignitions that need to be connected, as well as using resistors to trigger the parking light circuit, among other things.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
Yes, you can use either of those techniques, if you want problems with the install.

I can't count how many non functioning remote starters I've removed, because they were either twisted and taped or used T-taps. If they were soldered they would have been functioning fine.
Yeah, as I said in my other posts, I don't like the idea of t-taps. I said I liked the idea of poking the wires through but I wouldn't do that without soldering them

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Highly unlikely, unless you use an oxy/acetylene torch to solder with. I've used Weller soldering guns, both the smaller 100/150W and the larger 200/250W models to install car audio, security and remote starters, never once have I applied "too much heat" to a wire.

For larger wires, such as the 4 AWG power wires for amplifiers I will use a propane torch to solder the ends of the wires where they are crimped into the terminal, again, I have never applied "too much heat" to a wire.
I have a Weller soldering gun, a Radio-Shack soldering iron, and another soldering gun that I believe is a Craftsman. They all work great, each for different applications.

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That would be Bulldog, they are the only company that has supplied install videos with their products. DEI has NEVER supplied such an addition, since they have always recommended a professional install their products.
I know for a fact it is not Bulldog because I have never owned a Bulldog remote starter. I'm pretty sure I still have it. If I can find it, I'll take a picture to show you.

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Speaking of professionals, I suggest you seek one out. The only way I know to put this is blunt, and that is, if you can't identify the main ignition harness, you're going to have a lot of trouble with the other connections you need to make. There are multiple ignitions that need to be connected, as well as using resistors to trigger the parking light circuit, among other things.
I may not be a professional remote start installer who has installed hundreds but I have successfully installed three in the past. I also have tons of experience with electronics. I may sound like a novice cuz I am asking "stupid" questions but I am not. I am just simply gathering as much information as possible before I start tapping into wires. I did the same thing with the last three installs and they worked great.
 

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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Feel that way as you may, but it sounds like you're way in over your head.

When I said multiple ignitions, I mean like three true ignitions and two accessories IIRC, in addition to the starter, battery leads, etc, etc.. It's been about 8 months since I installed mine, so I don't recall all the details, and after installing thousands, they all become blurs, because I didn't get fancy with this one and add extra functions like I have with most of mine in the past.

Even a novice installer should be able to install a system in a day (or less), with minimal help, as in the cheat sheet and maybe some research on the intarweebz. Identifying the main ignition harness is the basic of the basic when it comes to installing a remote start system and if you have trouble with that, then you're going to have more trouble later in the install.
I had a friend who had never installed one previously, install one in about 4 hours, with my very minimal supervision, and he's not very electronics friendly. So I think there is something amiss with what you say is your skill level, and what your actual skill level is.
If you're that experienced with electronics, you should know how to identify the correct wires with the use of a DMM. Really, I'm making the suggestion of having a pro install it, to save you both time and money, but do as you wish.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
Feel that way as you may, but it sounds like you're way in over your head.

When I said multiple ignitions, I mean like three true ignitions and two accessories IIRC, in addition to the starter, battery leads, etc, etc.. It's been about 8 months since I installed mine, so I don't recall all the details, and after installing thousands, they all become blurs, because I didn't get fancy with this one and add extra functions like I have with most of mine in the past.

Even a novice installer should be able to install a system in a day (or less), with minimal help, as in the cheat sheet and maybe some research on the intarweebz. Identifying the main ignition harness is the basic of the basic when it comes to installing a remote start system and if you have trouble with that, then you're going to have more trouble later in the install.
I had a friend who had never installed one previously, install one in about 4 hours, with my very minimal supervision, and he's not very electronics friendly. So I think there is something amiss with what you say is your skill level, and what your actual skill level is.
If you're that experienced with electronics, you should know how to identify the correct wires with the use of a DMM. Really, I'm making the suggestion of having a pro install it, to save you both time and money, but do as you wish.
I can tell you right away that there are not three ignitions on my Dakota. There's two ignitions and two accessories. I think you need to look up the word novice ...and I would love to see a novice install this correctly in a day (not gonna happen)! It won't take me longer than a few hours to install it once I know which wires are which. I have found the ignition harness, I just don't see the thicker gauge ignition wires that jose13b mentioned further up into the dash. I'm doing my research first and part of the research is probing wires with a DMM (which I already said in a previous posting). I never said I was in a hurry to get this installed, and how would paying a few hundred dollars to have this installed save me money?

I can't stand know-it-all's, especially when they don't know what they are talking about!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
That would be Bulldog, they are the only company that has supplied install videos with their products. DEI has NEVER supplied such an addition, since they have always recommended a professional install their products.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zxmfkk.png
How about that? He was wrong again!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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Easy guys... take a breath or two...
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dingdong2
I can't stand know-it-all's, especially when they don't know what they are talking about!
LOL!!

I've only been installing alarms and remote starts (paid professionally) for oh, close to two decades now, I think I've learned a thing or two in that time. I know my truck had 3 ignitions, probably because it's an SLT.

Saving you money by not paying for the extra equipment you may blow up, since you can't even identify an ignition harness..

nov·ice/ˈnävəs/Noun
1. A person new to or inexperienced in a field or situation: "he was a complete novice in foreign affairs"
I'm well aware what a novice is. Like I said, a Novice shouldn't take any more than a day to put in a remote starter, with a cheat sheet and proper tools. Again, A good friend of mine, who hated electrical, installed one in one of his trucks in about 4 hours, with very minimal supervision from me. He did a pretty good job of installing it cleanly and safely as well.

That picture you linked to is a Design Tech piece, NOT a DEI piece, directed.com and directedelectronics.com were two different companies. I've been playing this game a LONG time, and I've seen many companies try to use similar names, packaging and even URLs to the bigger name companies to try and leach off their reputation.
 

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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
LOL!!

I've only been installing alarms and remote starts (paid professionally) for oh, close to two decades now, I think I've learned a thing or two in that time. I know my truck had 3 ignitions, probably because it's an SLT.

Saving you money by not paying for the extra equipment you may blow up, since you can't even identify an ignition harness..
The person that thinks they know everything and tells everyone else that they are wrong certainly indicates an ignorant cocky bastard! That is one main reason why I wouldn't pay someone to install mine because there are too many people like this guy out there. There's no way in hell I would trust this guy to touch my truck. He can't even read the forum. I already know where the ignition wires are. He obviously isn't getting too many install jobs since he has so much free time to insult me on here. I've been working with electronics for my whole life and haven't fried any yet!

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I'm well aware what a novice is. Like I said, a Novice shouldn't take any more than a day to put in a remote starter, with a cheat sheet and proper tools. Again, A good friend of mine, who hated electrical, installed one in one of his trucks in about 4 hours, with very minimal supervision from me. He did a pretty good job of installing it cleanly and safely as well.
Everyone else on this thread seems to disagree. They have already said that Dodge/Chrysler vehicles wiring is very complex.

Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
That picture you linked to is a Design Tech piece, NOT a DEI piece, directed.com and directedelectronics.com were two different companies. I've been playing this game a LONG time, and I've seen many companies try to use similar names, packaging and even URLs to the bigger name companies to try and leach off their reputation.
Visit the website. Directed Electronics logo is on there. If they were a separate company stealing Directed's reputation, Directed would have gone after them for infringement a long time ago.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Is it possible to ban him from this thread? I'm sick of having to defend myself. I came here for assistance, not to be insulted by this jerk! Everyone else on this forum has been really nice and very helpful.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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well if you need help let me know i have 15 year experience and i always use autopage stuff but used others too
www.autopageusa.com
www.caralarm.com
http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wiringsearch.asp
www.bypasskit.com
http://www.the12volt.com/carsecurity/carsecurity.asp

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