I can't disagree with your logic Indy but if it's such a long standing problem and the aftermarket has sense enough to offer a cheap alternative then Mopar should step up and offer a kit and then offer it on a recall basis to alleviate any issues owners are encountering! Just frustrating as the consumer that once you purchase any dealings with the dealership is like pulling teeth!

 

CMiL,

I agree, I agree, I agree!

Remember, it would cost tens of millions of dollars to implement "officially" the catch can with testing, warranty, training, fabrication, installation, union issues, etc. Even then, it probably isn't approvable with the NTSB and the EPA. Too many hoops to jump through.

So... as a well known "problem" that has been solved for years by the aftermarket community, as much as it hurts to swallow, sometimes it is best to just go with the flow. Fix it and move on because the factory isn't going to do it. **OR** take the TSB path to replace gaskets and hoses and still end up in the same place.

With a known solution, take the path of least resistance. It isn't like this doesn't happen with every brand. Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, etc... every users group finds ways to replace, update or modify "Part A" to make it better, more efficient, to solve a known unofficial problem, etc. There is nothing new here.

With ALL that said, still sux! I get it. A wise old man once said, "These aren't the droids you are looking for."


IndyD

 

And oh yea, we are stuck with the damn stealerships because legally the manufacturer can't sell vehicles directly to the end user... YET!

Dealers have created their own beds and someday they WILL have to lay in them.

 

Amen...time for a catch can group buy!

 

Hello fellow onwers,

I just got the new fix PVC Valve and the rubble hose. One year waiting for a fix from Chrysler and I still have the smoking problem. What next? Keep blowning smoke up our butts!!! Can Chrysler say lemon law or class action suite.

 

CMi- thats funny catch can group buy! I have a question.......
If the smoking is a known issue or one that the engineers dont have to fix as someone pointed out why doesn't every Hemi smoke on start up?
Mine has only done it once or twice but as everyone reading this thread can see some trucks are doing it at every start up. There's gotta be something wrong here.

 

The harder you drive (higher RPMs), the more oil is vaporized in the crankcase and drawn through the PCV under vacuum. Once you park the vehicle, the vaporized oil that is inside the manifold condenses back into liquid oil. Driving extremely hard and/or parking on an incline can lead to a larger amount of oil collecting over one or two intake valves. When you start the engine, the oil is immediately drawn in and burned (as the system was designed) leading to blue smoke from one or both of the tailpipes. It is not a significant amount of oil; a small amount of oil can produce a good amount of smoke making it look worse than it really is.

I'm not entirely sure what all the fuss is about; the current HEMI has been around since late 2005, has not changed much in design and was originally introduced under Daimler. All this hatred, talk of lawsuits and complaining about an 'issue' that really isn't doesn't make any sense. Those new to the HEMI engine should have done a bit more homework since this 'issue' has been known and documented for years; that's why catch cans exist.

Alternatives: Synthetic oil leads to less vapor being drawn through the PCV.
Catch can captures and condenses the oil before it hits the PCV.
Less pressure on the GO pedal = less smoke
Trade it in for a V6 and let us know if trading in power for no smoke is worth it.

 

That's not true with my truck. My wife drives it with my children in it a soccer mom's truck. Not driven hard at all.

 

Coldsteel, my wife drives my truck too. However I drive my 01 SS Camaro harder than sh#t and Ive never had one puff of smoke. People arent fussing, all they want is for their brand new vehicle to work properly.
Look I like my truck. But just cause you love Mopar so much dont be so faithfully blind to tell someone that has a truck that smokes thats the way its supposed to be. Thats called denial buddy. A new truck should not smoke, period.

 

Are we talking wisps of smoke (HEMI normal) or smoke screen thick (not normal)?

The Durango is new, but the engine design really isn't. Hemi engines smoke on startup, it doesn't matter if it's in the Charger, Durango, Jeep GC or RAM. Is it an ideal design? Obviously not, but that's the way it is and it is not a new concern with regards to the Hemi engine.

If an individual thinks it's excessive, they are within their rights to complain, but don't expect CDJR or any dealership to be able to eliminate it. If a new PCV with better O-Rings was the final solution, I would have gladly paid $30 for one instead of $100 for a catch can. On my Charger, i installed a catch can, on my Durango, I haven't yet.

If anyone manages to get a dealership to solve the smoking issue to their satisfaction, I would like to know the solution. Should smoke be emitted from a new $30k, $40k, $50k car or truck? No, I will concede to that point. Will I let something that doesn't affect overall performance or longevity reduce my satisfaction in either of my Hemi engines? Not a chance.