'11+ Tuner - Finally!!?
#72
Going to pick-up the Tuner today @ UPS Local Facility. DiabloSport had signature required on the package. I'm so pissed right now!!!! DiabloSport did not list this when filling out the online shipping form. Now 3 days later still don't have the tuner! I wrote to DiabloSport with my frustrations.
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The gurus on the RAM and Jeep forums say that there is a flash counter, and that if the dealer looks hard enough he can see if a tune was installed. This means that "de-tuning" the PCM prior to a visit to the dealer will not hide anything if the dealer has to do a warranty repair. The dealer will look and he will find - Chrysler insists, they've been stung with this for years. Besides, if you do hide the tune then you are guilty of fraud if the dealer makes a warranty repair on something caused by the tune. I am appalled at how many members here seem to think that personal fraud is okay. Of course they won't tolerate it from the dealer - but if they defraud the dealer to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions, well I guess then it's okay...
You'll find a lot more expertise on Mopar technical subjects in the above forums - they're not smarter than us, there's just an order of magnitude more of them....
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You'll find a lot more expertise on Mopar technical subjects in the above forums - they're not smarter than us, there's just an order of magnitude more of them....
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Last edited by GotRPM; 01-20-2013 at 09:04 PM.
#77
I try not to assume anything about another grown man and can only speak for myself but I don't get the sense anyone was/is trying to defraud the dealer but when u come across dealerships that hassle customers over an intake or any simple bolt on costumers become wary. I personally had my transmission replaced on my '05 SRT-10 with a B&G tune installed, have serviced fully modded BMW's many times with and without dealer problems and would advise anyone servicing a vehicle that has a handheld tuned to return to stock settings to avoid issues whenever and wherever possible. I think most consumers realize its 2013 and if it takes 2 years simply to crack the stock coding there's a good chance big brother can scan any vehicle and know exactly what's going on.
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For sure this warranty subject is a common one on these boards of all makes. Bottom line is the dealer has to prove the an ECU tune caused whatever issue is in question and I think a lot of folks are not as comfortable when it comes to car repair ethics in general. I mod everything (just sold my Solstice Coupe with a blown V8) and would love to put a blower on the D as I really wanted the SRT Durango that Dodge did not build. I'll certainly do the tune (as well as the upgraded tune on the canned Diablo tune) So, warranty stuff is a little different for me.
I think most owners wanting to hide tunes do so to prevent a shifty service rep from having a convenient way to blame a problem on the owner.
I think most owners wanting to hide tunes do so to prevent a shifty service rep from having a convenient way to blame a problem on the owner.
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Here was a good read I saw on the LX forum. I still see a concern, but its not going to stop me from doing it. I loved what Diablosport did for my Magnum.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f246/e...estore-325964/
I also do accept the fact that if I put a tune on the D and have to get the PCM reflashed because of me creating the problem I'll have to pay for it. Gotta pay to play you know?
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f246/e...estore-325964/
I also do accept the fact that if I put a tune on the D and have to get the PCM reflashed because of me creating the problem I'll have to pay for it. Gotta pay to play you know?