Is MDS really beneficial?
#14
#15
No it's only on over 60-65. Since your momentum is great, it takes very little force to keep the truck going. So it shuts down to a 4cyl
#16
What, no way! i think Chrysler claims it kicks on after 30mph, but mine kicked in even at 20mph. It just depends on your driving style if it kicks in sooner or later.
MDS definatley doesn't help over 65mph. On perfectly flat ground with zero head wind, my truck slowed down everytime MDS kicked in at any speed and especially more so after 65mph.
I have an AT3030 muffler with no resonators, so I'm 100% positive when it kicks in due to the helicpoter pulsating sound.
#17
Hi guys,
Just recently joined. Been reading the forum as a guest for a little bit.
I have a question about MDS on my 2006 Ram.
First - I bought it about 3 months ago, did some research and found out that 2006 and new Dodge Ram 1500s with Hemi get better MPGs than older Hemi. I guess MDS is supposed to be the aid in that. Well I went and bought 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (4x2).
I never got better than 15 mpg on the freeway and I don't really get on it. I average 13-14 mpg city, tricky part is - my on board computer is lying if you compare it to real life reading. The computer tells me I'm averaging 18 mpg, when after a fill up I devide miles driven by gallons put in and get 13-14.
Is this common with dodge computers and I'm just going to be stuck with that mpg?
Thanks
Just recently joined. Been reading the forum as a guest for a little bit.
I have a question about MDS on my 2006 Ram.
First - I bought it about 3 months ago, did some research and found out that 2006 and new Dodge Ram 1500s with Hemi get better MPGs than older Hemi. I guess MDS is supposed to be the aid in that. Well I went and bought 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (4x2).
I never got better than 15 mpg on the freeway and I don't really get on it. I average 13-14 mpg city, tricky part is - my on board computer is lying if you compare it to real life reading. The computer tells me I'm averaging 18 mpg, when after a fill up I devide miles driven by gallons put in and get 13-14.
Is this common with dodge computers and I'm just going to be stuck with that mpg?
Thanks
Is the truck a single or quad cab, lifted, any mods? How heavy is your foot?
Those numbers seem low since I have almost the same truck. Mine has an Airaid CAI and mixed city and highway driving I can get about 440 miles to a tank (completely empty). Averages out to be about 17.5 mpg mixed.
#18
What, no way! i think Chrysler claims it kicks on after 30mph, but mine kicked in even at 20mph. It just depends on your driving style if it kicks in sooner or later.
MDS definatley doesn't help over 65mph. On perfectly flat ground with zero head wind, my truck slowed down everytime MDS kicked in at any speed and especially more so after 65mph.
I have an AT3030 muffler with no resonators, so I'm 100% positive when it kicks in due to the helicpoter pulsating sound.
MDS definatley doesn't help over 65mph. On perfectly flat ground with zero head wind, my truck slowed down everytime MDS kicked in at any speed and especially more so after 65mph.
I have an AT3030 muffler with no resonators, so I'm 100% positive when it kicks in due to the helicpoter pulsating sound.
I was under the impression it didn't need the full power of a v8 at highway speeds. Either way, you will notice mpg improvements by disabling it with a tuner
#19
It kicks in under light throttle in as low as 2nd gear. If the load on the engine is under a certain predetermined percentage of available power, it will come on. It works best at speeds of 55 or less. On an incline when using cruise, it will usually kick in and out.
I don't mind the MDS part, I do not like that when the MDS is activated, the lock up clutch in the transmission torque converter slips @ about 30%. This is why the rpms will raise when MDS kicks in. Unneeded wear on the transmission in my opinion.
As for the overhead, it calculates an average. I usually reset mine when I fill up. Then at the next fill-up, I do the math and it is usually within a couple of 10ths of the overhead computer. Constantly resetting it on a tank will give false reading.
Yes it is beneficial under the right conditions.
My trip to work consist of 65 and 70mph speed limits and is hilly, so it didn't help me a whole lot.
On a trip on flat land, it got 19.7mpg before the Predator and no MDS @ 65mpg.
I don't mind the MDS part, I do not like that when the MDS is activated, the lock up clutch in the transmission torque converter slips @ about 30%. This is why the rpms will raise when MDS kicks in. Unneeded wear on the transmission in my opinion.
As for the overhead, it calculates an average. I usually reset mine when I fill up. Then at the next fill-up, I do the math and it is usually within a couple of 10ths of the overhead computer. Constantly resetting it on a tank will give false reading.
Yes it is beneficial under the right conditions.
My trip to work consist of 65 and 70mph speed limits and is hilly, so it didn't help me a whole lot.
On a trip on flat land, it got 19.7mpg before the Predator and no MDS @ 65mpg.
Last edited by lxman1; 04-29-2009 at 07:24 PM.
#20
Those computers aren't very accurate. Mine says 24 mpg at 55 mph on the highway.
Is the truck a single or quad cab, lifted, any mods? How heavy is your foot?
Those numbers seem low since I have almost the same truck. Mine has an Airaid CAI and mixed city and highway driving I can get about 440 miles to a tank (completely empty). Averages out to be about 17.5 mpg mixed.
Is the truck a single or quad cab, lifted, any mods? How heavy is your foot?
Those numbers seem low since I have almost the same truck. Mine has an Airaid CAI and mixed city and highway driving I can get about 440 miles to a tank (completely empty). Averages out to be about 17.5 mpg mixed.
No mods on mine at all
Lxman1:
I do reset the computer only once, after I fill up, I do not reset it while driving on that same tank. But mine overhead computer reads way off