Leveled with New Tires and ?'s
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Hi guys, I recently gave up my 20" rims for some awesome black 17" rims. I wrapped them in 295/70-17 Nitto Terra Grapplers. I put a set of level keys in to bring the front end up a little. I also had "Roadmaster Active Suspension" www.activesuspension.com put on the back to help when I tow the boat and camper (not at same time).
When I had the keys put in I asked the guy at the shop if it would make the front end ride rough/different and he said no. He said it would keep the factory ride. Well, now that it's all done somethings different and I don't want to blame the keys if it's not.
When I go over bumps that drop off sharply the front end hits real hard. As if the front end is pushing down toward the ground so hard that it "punches" the ground if the front end comes off the ground a little. I know that doesn't make much sense, but I didn't know how else to say it.
I also have noticed a couple of times where I'm turning a corner at a slightly higher speed and the front end hops sideways. I'm a pretty conservative driver so this isn't me being crazy with the speed in the turns.
Also... is there a chart somewhere that shows the appropriate CV angles? I would like to compare mine to something "normal".
I'm wondering if the shop cranked the torsion bars AND installed keys?? I know the active suspension brought the rear end up a little so I'm wondering if they tried to compensate for that. My truck still isn't exactly level.
Thanks.
When I had the keys put in I asked the guy at the shop if it would make the front end ride rough/different and he said no. He said it would keep the factory ride. Well, now that it's all done somethings different and I don't want to blame the keys if it's not.
When I go over bumps that drop off sharply the front end hits real hard. As if the front end is pushing down toward the ground so hard that it "punches" the ground if the front end comes off the ground a little. I know that doesn't make much sense, but I didn't know how else to say it.
I also have noticed a couple of times where I'm turning a corner at a slightly higher speed and the front end hops sideways. I'm a pretty conservative driver so this isn't me being crazy with the speed in the turns.
Also... is there a chart somewhere that shows the appropriate CV angles? I would like to compare mine to something "normal".
I'm wondering if the shop cranked the torsion bars AND installed keys?? I know the active suspension brought the rear end up a little so I'm wondering if they tried to compensate for that. My truck still isn't exactly level.
Thanks.
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I recently leveled mine just by adjusting the existing keys. I have no ill affects what so ever, in fact, it might ride a little better because of the change in weight distribution, and it took me all of 10 minutes. ![Icon Biggrin](https://dodgeforum.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
My only concerns are what you have already mentioned...CV angle, and suspension geometry...Im going to have mine aligned (free) at next service, and Ill report back if they had to change anything.
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My only concerns are what you have already mentioned...CV angle, and suspension geometry...Im going to have mine aligned (free) at next service, and Ill report back if they had to change anything.
-Chris
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Maybe you need longer shocks. It's an ongoing debate on here whether to do so or not, but maybe that could fix the problem.
Also, are your tires a larger overall diameter then what you had? Because if they are and the level's lift may have increased the center of gravity, possibly creating your problems.
I didn't change my shocks when I installed the kit and I haven't had any problems. I've even done some prerunning-style stuff and even trying to jump it with no bottoming out whatsoever.
My truck isn't perfectly level with the leveling kit on either but I have airbags in the rear too.
Also, are your tires a larger overall diameter then what you had? Because if they are and the level's lift may have increased the center of gravity, possibly creating your problems.
I didn't change my shocks when I installed the kit and I haven't had any problems. I've even done some prerunning-style stuff and even trying to jump it with no bottoming out whatsoever.
My truck isn't perfectly level with the leveling kit on either but I have airbags in the rear too.
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You need longer shocks, they are topping out, I've seen guys crack their windshields hitting hard off-road with factory length shocks.
I have 17x9 wheels on my Rancho lift and I know a guy with the same lift with 18x10s with no problem. Docs with my kit actually said "max tire is 35x12.5 with 8.5 width wheel" meaning you need AT LEAST a 8.5" wheel for a 12.5" wide tire...
I have 17x9 wheels on my Rancho lift and I know a guy with the same lift with 18x10s with no problem. Docs with my kit actually said "max tire is 35x12.5 with 8.5 width wheel" meaning you need AT LEAST a 8.5" wheel for a 12.5" wide tire...
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ok, that makes sense. I'll do a search for which shocks to get. Thanks a bunch. I have seen some on here using the shocks for the 2500. That sound right?
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I don't like that. One thought that comes to mind is that the tires are inflated very high - too high for the load that they're carrying. Check your pressure, and keep in mind that you have a larger tire on the vehicle, capable of carrying more weight.
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