O2 Sensor Codes, but not the sensors ???
Dodge RAM experts,
I have an '03 RAM 1500 4X4 with 5.7L Hemi. I got an engine light, checked the code, and it was P0138 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 2). So, I assumed that "sensor 2" was the downstream one, and I replaced it. The check engine light went out for about 5 minutes, then came back on. Checked the codes again, and this time it was P0138 (same as above) and P0038 - HO2S Heater Control Circuit High (Bank 1 Sensor 2). Assuming I had "sensor 1" and "sensor 2" backwards, I decided to replace the other one. So now I have two new O2 sensors, and the check engine light has come back, and now there are 3 codes ! Same 2 as above for "sensor 2", and P0132 - 02 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 1). I have better odds of winning he lottery than BOTH O2 sensors going bad (especially because they are new) at the same time. Clearly, I have something else wrong. AND, when at idle, it "lopes" badly, and even cuts out once in a while. Then, it will stop cutting out, and take off like a rocket ! Any ideas ? Please help, and THANK YOU in advance !
Craig
I have an '03 RAM 1500 4X4 with 5.7L Hemi. I got an engine light, checked the code, and it was P0138 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 2). So, I assumed that "sensor 2" was the downstream one, and I replaced it. The check engine light went out for about 5 minutes, then came back on. Checked the codes again, and this time it was P0138 (same as above) and P0038 - HO2S Heater Control Circuit High (Bank 1 Sensor 2). Assuming I had "sensor 1" and "sensor 2" backwards, I decided to replace the other one. So now I have two new O2 sensors, and the check engine light has come back, and now there are 3 codes ! Same 2 as above for "sensor 2", and P0132 - 02 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 1). I have better odds of winning he lottery than BOTH O2 sensors going bad (especially because they are new) at the same time. Clearly, I have something else wrong. AND, when at idle, it "lopes" badly, and even cuts out once in a while. Then, it will stop cutting out, and take off like a rocket ! Any ideas ? Please help, and THANK YOU in advance !
Craig
Dodge RAM experts,
I have an '03 RAM 1500 4X4 with 5.7L Hemi. I got an engine light, checked the code I'llnd it was P0138 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 2). So, I assumed that "sensor 2" was the downstream one, and I replaced it. The check engine light went out for about 5 minutes, then came back on. Checked the codes again, and this time it was P0138 (same as above) and P0038 - HO2S Heater Control Circuit High (Bank 1 Sensor 2). Assuming I had "sensor 1" and "sensor 2" backwards, I decided to replace the other one. So now I have two new O2 sensors, and the check engine light has come back, and now there are 3 codes ! Same 2 as above for "sensor 2", and P0132 - 02 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 1). I have better odds of winning he lottery than BOTH O2 sensors going bad (especially because they are new) at the same time. Clearly, I have something else wrong. AND, when at idle, it "lopes" badly, and even cuts out once in a while. Then, it will stop cutting out, and take off like a rocket ! Any ideas ? Please help, and THANK YOU in advance !
Craig
I have an '03 RAM 1500 4X4 with 5.7L Hemi. I got an engine light, checked the code I'llnd it was P0138 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 2). So, I assumed that "sensor 2" was the downstream one, and I replaced it. The check engine light went out for about 5 minutes, then came back on. Checked the codes again, and this time it was P0138 (same as above) and P0038 - HO2S Heater Control Circuit High (Bank 1 Sensor 2). Assuming I had "sensor 1" and "sensor 2" backwards, I decided to replace the other one. So now I have two new O2 sensors, and the check engine light has come back, and now there are 3 codes ! Same 2 as above for "sensor 2", and P0132 - 02 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank I Sensor 1). I have better odds of winning he lottery than BOTH O2 sensors going bad (especially because they are new) at the same time. Clearly, I have something else wrong. AND, when at idle, it "lopes" badly, and even cuts out once in a while. Then, it will stop cutting out, and take off like a rocket ! Any ideas ? Please help, and THANK YOU in advance !
Craig
Thank you for your responses. I checked for leaks upstream of the sensors, and everything looks good.
Yes, I used new Bosch sensors at both positions. What do you mean they "don't play nice together" ? I thought Bosch products were good...is that not the case ? It is over $110 for new ones. Do you recommend I get another non-Bosch set ? thanks again
Craig
Yes, I used new Bosch sensors at both positions. What do you mean they "don't play nice together" ? I thought Bosch products were good...is that not the case ? It is over $110 for new ones. Do you recommend I get another non-Bosch set ? thanks again
Craig
Swap the sensors form the other bank. Most likely if the O2 heater circuit is not fixed by replacement it is a wiring problem which could also explain your engine performance problems or worse case its the PCM itself. I think there is even fuel pressure checks you are to perform before thinking its the PCM itself.
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I followed the advice from above. The check engine light went out, and it ran like a Swiss watch...for a while. But at idle (only sometimes) it really runs rough (surges). The rest of the time is purrs like a cat. Now that I don't have any codes, WTF do I do to troubleshoot ? Plugs are fine, wires are good, fuel filter is clean. I'm guessing it is a computer issue as it only happens intermittently.




