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Old Jan 8, 2022 | 10:41 PM
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I've been working on vehicles for most of my life. Started when I was 14.... I am going to be 61 here in a few short weeks. I haven't always done it for a living, but, as I generally couldn't afford to pay someone else to work on my stuff..... I had to learn how to deal with the various and sundry problems that would crop up. It has been extremely rare that I have owned a vehicle that was built in the same decade that I owned it. Most were more than 15 years old. Some more than 20...... So yeah, I got a LOT of practice sorting through interesting problems. Learned a lot over the years.

I was at a Mensa event in St. Louis a bunch years back, and there I met an engineer that worked on GM engine design. That was an eyebrow raising revelation. I told him "I know a lot of folks that would like to kill you." He was shocked! "But, WHY????" And I pointed out stupid things like have to drop an engine cradle to change a water pump, as one bolt was so long, you couldn't get it out otherwise. Or the various parts that were extremely common failures, but were buried DEEP in the engine compartment, to the point that you had to disassemble half the car, to change a 20 dollar part. Or the fact that on the 'new' engines, changing the dern sparkplugs was 4 hours according to the Labor Time guide. That's just stupid....... I don't think our chat had any effect on how he designed engines though, witness the early 90's LT5 motor, with the starter buried under the intake manifold..... Yeah, that was a brilliant idea........

What's really depressing though, is I can usually sort out the problems of a fuel injected V-8 engine, that has more computer power than the entire Apollo program, but, a single-cylinder 2 cycle engine? I haven't gotta clue.
Well the V8 tends to tell you what it wants and will very clearly not act well. The single cylinder two stroke doesnt tell you things are wrong it just works somehow through magic!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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Well, I've gotten nowhere. Bypassed splices for map sensor direct to PCM circuit. Wired map direct with spades to rule out the connector. Only codes I get are 107 and 1296 shortly thereafter. Both map codes from what I can tell. I don't know why originally a search of code 1296 came up as TPS...

I've changed the map three times since summer to no avail. Wondering about my soup canned exhaust, if it's messing with the o2 sensors. I don't think so because it did run great for a week like this.

Is there a way to rule out the o2 sensors?

At this point otherwise all I can think is:
- bad connector plug at PCM
- plenum gasket ( vacuum tests fine, but I see oil residue in throttle body)

Going to the dealer tomorrow morning. This will be the fourth shop, also to no avail.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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Check the little rubber elbow from the throttle body, to the MAP sensor. Make sure it isn't split/cracked/holed/otherwise damaged.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 07:36 PM
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Check the little rubber elbow from the throttle body, to the MAP sensor. Make sure it isn't split/cracked/holed/otherwise damaged.
Thanks, I have. 'tested' by blowing through it, and also plugging the other end. Seems supple and not flawed.

I am thinking at this point though, it must be something simple like that, that I've overlooked. I mean it has to be something...!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:15 PM
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Is that a P1296??? That's for injector faults.......
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:23 PM
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Is that a P1296??? That's for injector faults.......
Yes I'm pretty sure it's p1296. I'll double check but pretty certain. It's a cheap scanner I have. It's manual doesn't even show 1296 code for me to know, so I googled it,. P1296 for Dodge ram. Google says map sensor voltage, which I didn't question since I've been getting the other map code for ages. P0107.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:03 PM
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I don't suppose your cheap scanner can read live data can it?? If it can, see what it says for MAP with key on, engine off, and then with engine running.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:11 PM
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I don't suppose your cheap scanner can read live data can it?? If it can, see what it says for MAP with key on, engine off, and then with engine running.
No it can't do that, but I'm thinking a scanner capable of that would be a worthwhile investment. Any recommendations?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:17 PM
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I think there is a thread about that in the FAQ section here.... (might be in the 2nd Gen Ram FAQ/DIY section too for that matter..... check both.)

I don't have enough experience with the latest and greatest scanners to make a recommendation.... Last scanner that I used was a Snap-On Solus...... if that tells ya how long ago that was. I have some crappy software on my laptop, but, it sucks, and I would NOT recommend it. Torque is supposed to be pretty good, Torque Pro even better, but, requires a bluetooth adapter for the OBD port. (which are pretty cheap.)
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:23 PM
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No it can't do that, but I'm thinking a scanner capable of that would be a worthwhile investment. Any recommendations?
Bluedriver is pretty good it does live data, data logging, crowd sourced reports. 110 or so, app free. Its very much a read only device, to my knowledge you cant even tell it to start a regen cycle on a diesel.

Alpha-OBD is ok but you need a compatible laptop and USB scanner or android+bluetooth. Dealer level software including programming and more but the UI is complicated but it does support graphing and telling the truck to do maintenance things.
 
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