I HAVE driven in the new 7 series and I have driven in the current and last model 5 series and nothing dodge has made comes close to either car. There's a difference in being loyal to a car company and being loyal to a car or even to a number of doors. It seems that the guys and girls on here(not all) are loyal to a dodge car instead of dodge itself. I didn't liek the idea of a 4 door charger when I heard it, but when I saw that it looked muscular and had a HEMI i said THANK GOD finally some dignity. Instead of hearing that I hear' boo hoo 2 extra doors" and a bunch of spiteful low blow comments about the car JUST because theres 2 extra doors and not for any other rational reasons. Theres no doubt that the best charger's were from the 60's and 70's BUT they werent the only chargers. Any mopar guy would get over himself about 2 doors and be glad that dodge has some dignity now, instead of cryin like a baby about 2 doors. Big muscular american styling and a HEMI, thats what a dodge should be.

People who buy the 300 are peole who would buy a benz or bimmer or another LUXURY car. People who will buy the charger are people who would buy a nissan or honda (altima,accord and even the maxima) the 300 and the charger arent competeing w/ each other. As for what I drive, im waitng for the charger but my fam has a caravan V6 and a neon in addition to a ford. I have always been a muscle car guy and I think dodge was always the baddest and the coolest.

Im not saying you have to think like me. I never said that. your opnion is your opinion but I also have the right to an opinion and im sorry if some of the cry babies think im too harsh. The Charger is gonna be a great car and it will sell alot.

 

PS- I dont mind the interpid, stratus and neon. I've had a bad experience w/ the neon but the srt-4 is awsome. There nice cars but thier boring. When dodge puts out a rearwheel drive hemi v8 car w/ muscular styling people bash it and embrase mediocrity. I dont understand. Again intrepid and neon and stratus nice cars, the stratus is deff the coolest of the 3 (except for the srt-4) but theres nothign to them. No preformance and boring styling. Im trying to understand.

 

You started off so well. I thought for a minute that you were capable of a mature discussion with grown ups. But, then you reverted back to being 6 years old and calling whoever doesn't agree with you a cry baby and spiteful. You're right, you have every right to your opinion but with the way that you express it, you just won't be taken seriously, sorry.

Why are you so fixated with the two door/four door thing? Like I said, It ain't about four doors, it's about ugly. The '99 show car had four doors and everyone was all excited about it. The 300C and Magnum have four doors and they look great! It doesn't matter how many doors this new Charger has, it's just not physically attractive. Oh, and I checked the "Mopar Guy's" manual and there is nothingin there about the number of doors or about having to like every car just because Dodge makes it.

BTW, your marketing research is flawed. I have a 300C and wouldn't be caught dead owning a Mercedes or a Beemer. I bought mine because it is a good looking car, has plenty of power, has good build quality reviews, drives and rides great, is a great value and it happens to be a Mopar. I was waiting for several years for the Charger to come out but when I saw it, I bought my 300C.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this subject. Okay, I'm done with this subject.

 

I don't have to agree to disagree. I just disagree with the thought that whoever is interested in a Charger would otherwise be likely to want a Honda or Nissan. duh? I cannot see how someone could be more wrong. Why would someone interested in a Canadian car with a decent Mexican motor made and sold by a German car company be interested in a tiny motor Jap car just because they are made here now? What am I missing? I doubt these two markets even overlap a little.

 

Dude if you think im immature then maybe you should go through this forum reading some of the anti-charger posts. For months all i've read (for the most part) are cheap shots to the car just becuase it has 4 doors and is named "charger". Go through this forum and read the comments. atleast 70% percent of all the anti-charger comments are because its a sedan. The problem is that all the charger haters think its ok for them to jump up a persons back because they liek the charger or that its not immauture when they make "6 year old" low blow comments at the car in response to someone who simply says they think its a cool car. I dont even knwo where you get off calling my post immature. Cause I call people "haters" and "posers" cause they ARE HATING on a mopar car w/ a HEMI, rear wheel drive and aggresive muscular styling just because of the number of doors or the name. I thought this forum was for dodge fans not just charger fans, People who are loyal to dodge's heritage not just one cars heritage. Im not a fan of the interpid or neon but im not hating on them. I just don't liek them. If someone posts that they love those cars i dont reply w/ a smartass comment or jump down thier throat to point out the negative points of those cars. The only reason I posted an angry reply was because i've been hearing this crap for months.

You need to go back and read my entire post. I said nobody has to agree w/ me. That your entitled to your opinion and thats fine. It took me awhile to like the car myself. I dont care who hates the car and for what reason. But when you start to jump down my throat for likeing the car and the same bs is shoved down my throat all the time it gets anoying. You claim that im saying your wrong if you dont agree w/ me. But maybe you shoudl go see how many of you charger haters do the same thing.

Also my marketing isnt flawed. You guys are enthusiats. Thats why your spending time on a online forum. But to the average car buyer who is not an enthusiast of any company or car its bang for the buck in what thier looking for. If I wanna buy a luxury sedan im not going to dodge. Im going to BMW, benz,infiniti,lexus, chrysler, etc. If i dont care for flashy cars and i just want something average and normal for a good price ill go to honda or nissan or mazda or dodge or whatever. Thats just one of the people the charger will appeal to. As a matter of fact the base charger which is 22g's has a bigger V6 than the base 300. So it has more bang for the buck. So for someone to buy the 300 over the charger they would have to prefer luxury over non-luxury and performance. Same thign goes for the sxt/touring and the 300C/RT. Thier pretty much the same mechanically so it become an issue of "do I want a luxury car or something low key". The styling makes all the difference.

Anyway the point for me is I dont care what the car is called or if it has 4 doors or not, the charger is a badass mopar w/ a HEMI and rear wheel drive and im about dodge not just one dodge car. If you guys hate then fine but dont attack me for liking it. AGAIN thsi is IN RESPONSE to all the peopel who jump down your throat for liking the car and insist that name and number of doors are good reasons to hate it.

 

Well this "poser and hater" also happens to work for dcx. I have to agree with big asp. Your first post on this thread was the low blow. I'm sorry if you don't like the truth that this will sell okay, but not great. So then you resort to name calling. The reason most of us do not like the charger is because it is ugly as sin. Sure the four doors don't help the cause either, but if it at least looked like a Charger most of us could overlook the four doors.(See 99 Charger) So what you are saying is if dcx puts out a rwd turd with a hemi I should be happy? Sorry no can do.

Joe


P.S. Noticed you still have not posted what you drive.....

 

See, there you go. You just proved me right on everything I previously said.

1. Your basing it on the name "CHARGER". That may be important to you because you are an enthusiast, But the average car buyer, who will make the money for DCX doesnt care about the name. If you base on whats out now its not ugly at all. And I offer the same advice to you, go look through this forum and read the comments. Atleast 70% of the complaints are becuase it has 4 doors and is named charger. The average car buyer will like this car and its an awsome bang for the buck compared to the other cars in its class. Like I said, loyal to a car not to a company. Now people who were bitchin about the number of doors are trying to cover thier tracks by calling it ugly. If you think its ugly cool w/ me, beauties in the eye of the beholder. Im just glad dodge has some ***** for a change. BIG improvment over the interpid. Sorry if you dont liek the truth. I provide a valid reason why I think it will sell alot, the only reason you privide is because you "THINK" its ugly. Nice work.

2. Also you proved that your a hypocrite. That was a pretty immature post. After all the lame bs that was shoved down my throat (liek that) I see no problem w/ stating my point of view especially in response to people who questioned my loyalty to dodge just because I said I liked the charger.

3. When i said I liked the car in many of my other posts I didnt force it on anyone. But I was swarmed w/ immature comments and your opinions were shoved down my throat. I return the favor once and all of a sudden im the bad guy. people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. Also when the 99 concept came out people were pissed that it had four doors. Just because peopel got over it dont think they were never unhappy. Again I provide a valid reason and you just come shoving your bs reasons down my throat (its ugly).

PS- learn to read. I posted that Im waiting for the charger but my fam owns a V6 caravan and a neon which i dont liek. Again if you dont liek the car fine but im returnign the favor to all the guys that jumped down my throat cuz I said i liked it. look throught the forum.

 

Such dissension....I've seen lots of positives - lots of negatives. Purchased my last 3 Mopars the year they came out and will do so on this one. Have had no problems whatsoever on any of them - no worries. As for appearance, I like it much better than what they've done to the Durango & Dakota - will never buy one as they are now. I'm at the point where I want another Hemi toy - the RT will do it for me. I'm tired of looking at '60's bondo-bucket Mopars that owners are asking $20K for w/ a freakin' 383 let alone a 440!!! Sure it's got 4-doors - so does the 300.. I just like the front end of the Charger better and it's sportier. As for the new 'Stang - had them as rentals - like sitting in a matchbox car...

Change happens - sometimes you like it, sometimes not. Took a while to get used the the new RAM; the Dak and Durango - NEVER...Guess the same holds true for the Charger - personally, it's for me!!!!

 

GM is still #1 and Chrysler isn't even part of the big three anymore, they have made the GTO and it's a coupe where Dodge made the Charger and it's a sedan. GM is #1 for a reason, they are doing it far more correctly than Chrysler and Ford right now is nailing it perfectly with the new Mustang, which also happens to be a coupe. I guaranteed know of hundreds if not thousands of Chargers that would have been bought if it were a coupe, but will now just sit on the lot because it's a sedan. Most everyone I know that wanted the Charger and would have bought it if it were a coupe won't because it's a sedan. I would have waited for it instead of getting the SRT-4 if it were a coupe, but since it's a sedan I would rather have the cheaper and more fuel efficient SRT-4 that also performs great and has huge aftermarket support.

 

The new Charger is the replacement for the Intrepid...not the second coming....so it has four doors. Get over it! As long as it outsells the Intrepid, it will be a hit. The Charger is going to offer more that the Intrepid ever did. I see hope in the new cars that Dodge has in it's future. I hope the inspiration and quality trickle down to the next Stratus. and just because GM is bigger doesn't make them better...which one of the Big Three is making money right now? Think some guy in a GTO is going to care that a Charger SRT8 has four doors when the only thing he can get a glimpse at is the tailights? If everyone is so upset with the car being named Charger maybe Dodge should give it **** poor breaks, sloppy steering and a ride like a lumber wagon, make it a coupe and let the true mopar guys buy it...and don't forget big block power that gets 8MPG instead of the 25 that the new Hemi delivers with MDS. There are still more new Dodge vehicles on the horizon so maybe one of them will be a V8 coupe...but Dodge needed a replacement for the Intrepid fisrt!