Why you shouldnt run platinum plugs in the neon!
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Im a rebel and do what Iwant and go with whats rare and too each is everyown . I really dont like the ngks ran like crap in my 96 turbo neon so changed to bosch pla the best for turbos runs really nice.
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RE: Why you shouldnt run platinum plugs in the neon!
You know, each manufacture has their own spark plug. Their engines were design and tested to run on a specific plug. Honda I think use ngk (or what ever), ford-autolite, Chrysler-champion, GM-AC Delco, etc, etc. Unless you have altered or modify your engine in some way, run what came with it.
I tow a 5th wheel trailer with my 98-360 dodge ram and I have tried them all and you know what I came back was the Champion copper truck plug. I change my 2001 neon once a year (15000 mi.) and keep on goin' down the road, it has approx. 150,000km. on it now. Any plug will feel better than the worn out one you just took out. If there is a difference you are looking at maybe a 1/10 of a sec. or so.
hope this helps - kayakman[8D]
I tow a 5th wheel trailer with my 98-360 dodge ram and I have tried them all and you know what I came back was the Champion copper truck plug. I change my 2001 neon once a year (15000 mi.) and keep on goin' down the road, it has approx. 150,000km. on it now. Any plug will feel better than the worn out one you just took out. If there is a difference you are looking at maybe a 1/10 of a sec. or so.
hope this helps - kayakman[8D]
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I used to run Bosch Platinum 4s but because of what I read on here I desided to try some NGKS V-groove plugs since they were just $8 for all 4. Well I installed them and guess what, there was no difference what so ever. Or not anything noticably anyways but I think I will keep the NGKs in there for now just to see if they get fouled up or anything. The Bosch plugs looked ok but were a little dark.
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RE: Why you shouldnt run platinum plugs in the neon!
Well I put a set of Bosch platinum plugs in my wifes 2001 and the MPG increased 4 mpg on the Hwy. They have been in the car for 8 months now and I have not had a problem with them at all. I think one needs to check the gap when putting in any new plug in a Dodge as Chevy's have a wider gap setting and many plugs are set to wide for a Dodge.
Just my $0.02
Just my $0.02
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I just do not get why you'd go against what the Sparkplug manufacturers recomend. They say not to use single platinum in a DIS ignition car then why try. Just use copper core or go to Double Platinum, or Iridium, or Iridium/Platinum and be happy. Champions work just fine, NGK are great plugs with a longer life due to harder material being used as well as Autolite. Most Jap cars spec either NGK or Denso. Heck Mitsubishi uses DC engines and vice versa and they use NGK or Denso so why not. If properly spec'd out (Not universal fit plugs) pick your favorite brand. Just follow the guidelines.
Not that hard.
Not that hard.
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RE: Why you shouldnt run platinum plugs in the neon!
My friend put a set of those in and it made his 04 pop. I am currently running NGK iradium plugs with magnacore wires and have noticed a bit of power increase, along with a smoother idle
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I got my ngk iridium spark plugs from this site: http://www.sparkplugs.com/default.asp
They work really good and make it run better and are supposed to last longer than normal spark plugs. Also the instructions told me not to gap the iridium spark plugs and to just install them how they come because u could snap the electrode.
They work really good and make it run better and are supposed to last longer than normal spark plugs. Also the instructions told me not to gap the iridium spark plugs and to just install them how they come because u could snap the electrode.
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RE: Why you shouldnt run platinum plugs in the neon!
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I had only Champion Platinums in my '99 Neon R/T the entire time I owned it, 3 years+, and it ran flawless. I hear people always ragging on Champion spark plugs, yet I have always used them from the $.99 cheapies to the Platinums without any problems what so ever. I have tried many other brands from Bosh to Accel U-groove to Splitfires and I have yet to see any improvement in performance, so I'll stick with my good ol' Champions, that has always been Mopars plug of choice and it is mine as well. And yes I am aware that more recently they have also used Bosch and NGK, but they have always used Champions.
I think the greater problem in the ignition system is the sad plug wires, they have between 1,500-3,200 ohms resistance and they're not even a foot long. Everyone that has the 2.0L DOHC or the 2.4L DOHC need to switch them over to MSD Super Conductor plug wires, they smooth out the idle, they actually give it a stronger meaner sounding exhaust (most don't believe this until they get them and then they are shocked that they could make that kind of a difference) and increase horsepower and fuel mileage. They have less than 50 ohms per foot of resistance and since none of the plug wires are even that long, they are between 20-40 ohms resistance which is thousands of times better than stock.
Combining the MSD Super Conductor plug wires with a set of Champion Platinum spark plugs is a great and flawless combo. I know this for a fact since I've ran this combo in my '99 R/T for the 3+ years I owned it and now with my '04 SRT-4 and they are both still running great. In fact, my '99 R/T with the MSD wires and Champion plugs also had/has the Mopar Performance CAI, cat-back exhaust, chrome header, motor mounts, bobble strut and PCM (computer) as well as front strut tower brace, MSD coil and REX motor mount inserts on it and with a few drag runs mixed with in town and freeway driving averaged 35+ MPG. My SRT-4 with the MSD wires and Champion plugs also had the Mopar Performance cat-back exhaust, STS and BOV as well as K & N Typhoon CAI, MSD coil, 2 OCC's, Prothane race motor mount inserts and front and rear strut tower braces on it and with the same type driving as the R/T, with the exception of more spirited driving, it got 21.9 MPG the one time I checked it. It would get better if I could keep from enjoying the turbo, but it now has the Mopar Performance Stage 1 on it too.
I had only Champion Platinums in my '99 Neon R/T the entire time I owned it, 3 years+, and it ran flawless. I hear people always ragging on Champion spark plugs, yet I have always used them from the $.99 cheapies to the Platinums without any problems what so ever. I have tried many other brands from Bosh to Accel U-groove to Splitfires and I have yet to see any improvement in performance, so I'll stick with my good ol' Champions, that has always been Mopars plug of choice and it is mine as well. And yes I am aware that more recently they have also used Bosch and NGK, but they have always used Champions.
I think the greater problem in the ignition system is the sad plug wires, they have between 1,500-3,200 ohms resistance and they're not even a foot long. Everyone that has the 2.0L DOHC or the 2.4L DOHC need to switch them over to MSD Super Conductor plug wires, they smooth out the idle, they actually give it a stronger meaner sounding exhaust (most don't believe this until they get them and then they are shocked that they could make that kind of a difference) and increase horsepower and fuel mileage. They have less than 50 ohms per foot of resistance and since none of the plug wires are even that long, they are between 20-40 ohms resistance which is thousands of times better than stock.
Combining the MSD Super Conductor plug wires with a set of Champion Platinum spark plugs is a great and flawless combo. I know this for a fact since I've ran this combo in my '99 R/T for the 3+ years I owned it and now with my '04 SRT-4 and they are both still running great. In fact, my '99 R/T with the MSD wires and Champion plugs also had/has the Mopar Performance CAI, cat-back exhaust, chrome header, motor mounts, bobble strut and PCM (computer) as well as front strut tower brace, MSD coil and REX motor mount inserts on it and with a few drag runs mixed with in town and freeway driving averaged 35+ MPG. My SRT-4 with the MSD wires and Champion plugs also had the Mopar Performance cat-back exhaust, STS and BOV as well as K & N Typhoon CAI, MSD coil, 2 OCC's, Prothane race motor mount inserts and front and rear strut tower braces on it and with the same type driving as the R/T, with the exception of more spirited driving, it got 21.9 MPG the one time I checked it. It would get better if I could keep from enjoying the turbo, but it now has the Mopar Performance Stage 1 on it too.
I'm running Champion Plats in my SRT-4 with no problems............
Dusty