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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Default RE: 04 Srt-4 with stage 2/ no toys. how impressive?

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you would need something to tune in order to get it tuned. s2 on it's own has nothing to tune at all, you just put it on and go.

s2 has been known to hit 300hp with the right supporting mods....
Amy... just curiosity... do you have a simple list of those supporting mod's?

I'm thinking it might be time to start putting a little cash away to do some simple upgrades... make the car even faster... ha-ha...
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Get the toys, you will be bummed if you don't. The power of the Mopar Stg2 & 3 lie within the red button....
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Default RE: 04 Srt-4 with stage 2/ no toys. how impressive?

some of the best supporting mods for s2 (other than the basics like mounts and such)......
3"tbe
tb
w/i
fc of some sort
fmic
wga (mbc helps but not completly necessary)
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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do you recommend stage 2 wga already in the kit or an aftermarket and wich one?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:04 AM
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Default RE: 04 Srt-4 with stage 2/ no toys. how impressive?

aftermarket, it has a stronger spring. the agp is a nice one, pretty easy to tune too.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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I have a stage 2 with toys with a full 3 inch TBE and stock airbox. On a really bad traction day at my local track I ran a 13.6 at almost 107. On street tires. At my race weight of 3140 and doing the qtr mile hp math, I must be right at 299 hp. The only other major mod is motor mounts. There is no doubt in my mind that with enough traction, I could run in the 12's. PSI chick is right on the money with the fact that there is nothing to tune if you do not have an aftermarket fuel control and yes the stage 2 does run quite rich. I need a fuel control and a boost control myself. The stage 2 wga is fine if you do not want to mess with it. It holds 16 lbs in DAB 3 just like it's supposed to. I've heard the AGP's are better, but probably only necessary if you are holding more boost.
What kind of cars can you beat? The list is impressive. SS/SC Cobalt, V-8 GP / Impala SS's, Supercharged V-6 GP's, V-8 mustangs both 4.6 and 5.0, LT-1 anything, LS-1 most things, BMW 3 series, V-8 S-10's, WRX's, G35, built deisel Ford Super Duty (Very built but not maxxed), older Corvettes to name a few that I personally know of.
Cars to watch out for?; See the above ^^^ as they can all be quite fast with the right mods.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Default RE: 04 Srt-4 with stage 2/ no toys. how impressive?

You mean 299hp at the crank ? ..... at the wheels you would def. need a fuel controller to see close to 300whp.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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You mean 299hp at the crank ? ..... at the wheels you would def. need a fuel controller to see close to 300whp.
that means stage 2 with toys with a full 3 inch TBE only added 29hp at the crank? that's what i don't get since i've read a thousand times that our 230hp is at the wheels which translates to roughly 270 crank hp. don't understand how guys and girls can list s2, tbe w/ o2housing and even fmicor similarmods and someone will come in and say you're makin 280 at the crank - that's an 8hp gain at the wheels? seems like i was told i only gained 5 whp using their math.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Default RE: 04 Srt-4 with stage 2/ no toys. how impressive?

sigh ...... I'm just saying he doesn't have 300whp. He was probably referring to whp which I disagree with his numbers..... to have 300whp you would have roughly 345hp at the crank with a 15% drivetrain loss...... which you are not going to see without some kind of fuel control.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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forget the crank crap. all numbers that srt gives are wheel hp numbers, even the stock numbers.

s2 (or s3 for that matter) is not for dyno queens. if you want a high hp number go another route. it's for people who want to see performance at the track.
 
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