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2004 neon 41te/a604 no 2nd gear

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Old 12-30-2010, 10:00 PM
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Default 2004 neon 41te/a604 no 2nd gear

2004 neon 41te/a604 no 2nd gear
park, reverse, and first gears work.
when it shifts from 1st to 2nd, there is no shift, then i think it goes into limp mode (stays in 2nd gear), i have to shut off the car and restart to get the car to move again in 1st gear, codes p0700
any ideas?
is there an inline service/ repair manual, that i can use for trouble shooting or tear down?
thanks
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p0700 is a generic trans code meaning there are more detailed codes stored in the TCM
have it scanned by a trans shop and see whats what
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:28 PM
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i can drive the car like 15mph, i live about 25 miles from the nearest trans. shop, and i wont take it there.
is there a scanner i can rent or buy?
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not for cheap
and I doubt anyone would loan you one, people are weird that way

your really just shooting in the dark without getting it read,
do you have AAA? have it towed somewhere
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:17 AM
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so will the tcm scanner have a special plug, or will it plug into the odb-ll scanner plug-in? where can i buy?

i have never needed a scanning tool, i have always just turned the key on and off 3 times, (i guess that is what i get for buying a car that is less than 20 years old)
any help with any of this, anything other than that i need to take it to someone else

my guesses are, bad 2-4 clutch pack, bad or plugged solenoid pack, bad accumulator, or bad wires
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:24 AM
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The 2003-2005 Neons have the TCM integrated into the PCM. It all reads from the OBD-II port.

Here's a basic, cheaper scanner for $30. http://www.amazon.com/OBDII-Engine-S.../dp/B000LEPT5G
I have the older model of this one (just looks different): http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...0664&ppt=C0103. Either way, $100 is a common price for a good scanner.
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even the cars withn a seperate TCM are read thru the OBDII port (DLC)

I'm not suggesting you give it over to someone to fix u just need more descriptive trans codes
otherwise start replacing everything you think is wrong and see how much cash you have left

I dont see anywhere where those scanners advertise they will read TCM codes
the cheapo 3100 I have would only give me a P0700 code and no further
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got a code reader from autozone, they had a loaner.
the codes i got where
p2096,,,p0700,,,p0344,,,p0845,,,p0733,,,p0731,,,p0 846,,,p0734,,,p0732
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P0344 Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Intermittent
P0731 Gear 1 Incorrect ratio
P0732 Gear 2 Incorrect ratio
P0733 Gear 3 Incorrect ratio
P0734 Gear 4 Incorrect ratio
P0845 Transmission Fluid Pressure Sensor/Switch B Circuit
P0846 A/T 2-4 Pressure Switch Circuit Malfunction
P2096 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System Too Lean Bank 1


P0344 means you have bad sensor wiring or a bad sensor.

Reading through the factory service manual, in each incorrect gear ratio code diagnostic solutions, if the codes P0845 and/or P0846 are present, it says to replace the transmission solenoid/pressure switch assembly:

Here's for P0732, for example:
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With the DRBIIIt, read Transmission DTC’s.
Are the DTC’s P0845 and/or P0846 present also?
Yes- Replace the Transmission Solenoid/Pressure Switch Assembly per the Service Information. Perform 41TE (NGC) TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1.
This is for code P0845:
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With the DRBIIIt, read Transmission DTC’s.
Are any of the DTCs P0732, P0734 and/or P0846 present also?
Yes- Replace the Transmission Solenoid/Pressure Switch Assembly per the Service Information. Perform 41TE (NGC) TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1.
The most likely causes for P2096 are a bad O2 sensor or the O2 sensor wiring.
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disregard the ratio codes at the moment as they are set by something else

focus on the solenoid/press switch assy, and the 2-4 pressure switch

the cam code if its correct would cause the O2 code

heres the solenoid/switch assembly
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