The Official 2nd Gen RAM Forum OT thread
Look what I found: https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...00-shocks.html
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Sunshine and 65* here 
. Might get my trans pulled today too.
Checked the specs of the Ford against those of the Dodge:
Dodge 360 (stock):
HP: 235
Torque:330 ft/lb
Ford 460 (stock):
HP: 245
Torque: 400 ft/lb
Dodge 408 stroker (360 based):
HP: 300-400, depending on aspiration and cam
Torque: Up to 500ft/lb (depending on cam and aspiration once again)
Ford 590 stroker (460 based):
HP: 800 naturally aspirated, 1200+ turbo'd and 80lb injectors
Torque: 650 ft/lb
Correct me on the Dodge numbers if I am wrong, stock numbers for both engines are from my vehicles. Both systems seem to show up to 30rwhp on a stock setup with proper tuning.
Now it gets really interesting:
On the Ford 460, on a stock displacement, with a less restrictive cam, tuning,and true dual exhaust without catalytic converter, MAF wideband sensor system (MAP sensor is changed to a MAF sensor, O2 sensor is replaced with wideband sensor), and dual ram-air cold air intakes, the 460 can make a impressive 30MPG. Highway of course. But here's where it gets really interesting: The Ford EEC-IV system allows for tuning through chip burning. The chip most people use has a 5-position switch on the dashboard. One position allows the default EEC programming to run the engine (and tranny, if auto), and the other 4 are custom tunes by the person. This allows for a person on the fly to switch between tunes, without needing to stop and reflash, unlike most other OBD1 systems, and many OBD2 systems. So one of those four is high-MPG tune, for simply highway no-load driving, then maybe another one is the high-power tune, pushing 350RWHP with the above listed mods. Easy. And no high-octane fuel needed even with extreme timing if a proper distributor kit is used.
So my question is: If a bigger much heavier system can get 30MPG, why can't the Dodge 360 get 30MPG? Ford didn't even use a really steep O/D to attempt to boost fuel economy like Dodge did. Any ideas? And no this 30MPG thing is no BS either, so don't try to call BS.
So I'm trying to puzzle this together now... I wonder if it's the computers, or what
. Might get my trans pulled today too.Checked the specs of the Ford against those of the Dodge:
Dodge 360 (stock):
HP: 235
Torque:330 ft/lb
Ford 460 (stock):
HP: 245
Torque: 400 ft/lb
Dodge 408 stroker (360 based):
HP: 300-400, depending on aspiration and cam
Torque: Up to 500ft/lb (depending on cam and aspiration once again)
Ford 590 stroker (460 based):
HP: 800 naturally aspirated, 1200+ turbo'd and 80lb injectors
Torque: 650 ft/lb
Correct me on the Dodge numbers if I am wrong, stock numbers for both engines are from my vehicles. Both systems seem to show up to 30rwhp on a stock setup with proper tuning.
Now it gets really interesting:
On the Ford 460, on a stock displacement, with a less restrictive cam, tuning,and true dual exhaust without catalytic converter, MAF wideband sensor system (MAP sensor is changed to a MAF sensor, O2 sensor is replaced with wideband sensor), and dual ram-air cold air intakes, the 460 can make a impressive 30MPG. Highway of course. But here's where it gets really interesting: The Ford EEC-IV system allows for tuning through chip burning. The chip most people use has a 5-position switch on the dashboard. One position allows the default EEC programming to run the engine (and tranny, if auto), and the other 4 are custom tunes by the person. This allows for a person on the fly to switch between tunes, without needing to stop and reflash, unlike most other OBD1 systems, and many OBD2 systems. So one of those four is high-MPG tune, for simply highway no-load driving, then maybe another one is the high-power tune, pushing 350RWHP with the above listed mods. Easy. And no high-octane fuel needed even with extreme timing if a proper distributor kit is used.
So my question is: If a bigger much heavier system can get 30MPG, why can't the Dodge 360 get 30MPG? Ford didn't even use a really steep O/D to attempt to boost fuel economy like Dodge did. Any ideas? And no this 30MPG thing is no BS either, so don't try to call BS.
So I'm trying to puzzle this together now... I wonder if it's the computers, or what
Has anyone ever heard the old wives tale about when you start your car, to let it sit for 10-15 seconds before actually driving it? I remember my Dad saying that when i was little. He said thats supposed to be the ample time to let the oil get to where it needs to go before you start driving conditions. Ive always done this but wondered if anyone else does it or if you really dont need to. Or maybe Im just paranoid and a creature of habit haha
