The difference of an alternate vehicle in my situation would be 2312.46-3205.08 anually this may seem like a lot but estimates that my truck get worse gas milage then it does when operating well. and also assumes that an alternate vehicle gets better gas milage then it would.I will not be geting rid of my truck for those measly ammountsof cash - i think the difference is well worth being able to get through anything haul trailers whenever i need to and have somwhere to sleep on my lunch break (it really is a bed to me at work)



Alright guys - i did a bit of math and figured i would bring it forward math was done at gas being 3.39 a gallon (price at time of calculation) and again at 4.00 a gallon (estimated price in summer). this also assumes that an alternate vehicle gets 30 miles to the gallon and can be taken to work in winter (3-5 months) spring (2-3 months) summer (3-5 months) and fall (2-3 months) --- i live in utah so the seasons are variable and are hell when going through the mountains

I drive a 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 488 and travel 84 miles per day, 5 days per week (a total of 261 work days per year)
currently at a minimumi get 10 miles to the gallon, usually i average between 12 and 15 with only basic exaust work done (2 high flow cats and a flowmaster muffler)

Basic math
payment yearly/ days worked yearly
fuel cost * (miles traveled/ MPG) = money spent per day
insurance yearly / days worked yearly
daily insurance + daily payment + daily fuel cost = daily cost of alt
truck daily - car daily = daily difference () daily diff*261=yearly diff

Truck
@3.39$ a gallon
3.39*(84/10)=28.48 daily
@4.00$ a gallon
4.00*(84/10)=33.60 daily

Alternate vehicle
MPG = 30
Monthly payment 120.00
Monthly insurance 100.00
yearly cost
120*12= 1440.00 anually
100.00*12= 1200.00
daily cost
1440.00/261=5.52 daily cost
1200/261=4.60 daily cost

@3.39$ a gallon
3.39*(84/30)= 9.50 daily
9.50+5.52+4.60=19.62


@4.00$ a gallon
4.00*(84/30)= 11.20 daily
11.20+5.52+4.60=21.32

End result
28.48-19.62 =8.86 daily difference
8.86*261=2312.46
33.60-21.32 =12.28 daily difference
12.28*261=3205.08

 

heh, Ive said this before and I'll say it again.. COAL!!!!!!!!!! lol we need to start diggin' for coal rather than oil lol.. then we can at least be back down to 2.5 a galon lol

 

Dude, do you know what it takes to mine coal?

 

A shovel?

 

Mining coal takes alot of eqiupment and money, it also takes alot of manpower. I would rather hire people here to mine coal than pay another country for oil.

 

Coal mining, if done right, wouldnt take as much as its taking right now. At this time, all the coal mines are being run in an antique fasion, and would need to modernise. besides, do you know how much is being spent just on oil? Even in human life? Coal Mining is currently a PAIN, I agree, but if we put just as much effort into coal as we do oil, it wouldnt be such a hastle...

 

The treehuggers would never let us mine any more coal then we are now.

 

hehe, something will have to give though.. and yes, coal mining would be very good for our economy, we can work on alternative fuels while we mine our own coal, rather than depending on other countries for energy.. its give and take, the tree huggers will just have to step aside, otherwise things are gonna get really really ugly.

 

They will never step aside.

Take the small mountains, the Black Hills, in western South Dakota for example. When General Custer came through fighting the indians back in the day, there were not very many trees. Now look at the Hills... nothing but trees. Why? Because every single logging company in the Hills has been run out of business by treehuggers, and fires (with the exception of huge blazes) are kept under strict control.

Did the treehuggers win their lawsuits? No, but they kept it up for so long that the logging companies couldn't afford to pay their lawyers anymore.

And when a huge forest fire rages through out of control, destroying hundreds of acres of trees, houses, and everything else, the treehuggers are strangely silent. Imagine that.

If they'd just allow some limited logging, to thin out the density, the forest fires would be fewer and easier to control.

A bit off topic, I know, but its to prove a point. They will never back down.

 

I dunno man. Coal mining would be like picking oranges. Only immigrants want to do it. My grandpa comes from the Coal mining of West Virginia, and that's where I live now. So many people worked for an education so they AVOID coal mining that it's not the big hit it once was. Granted the treehuggers had a lot to do with it, there's just a certain type of people that don't want to do it anymore, and will avoid it at all costs. That's just a firsthand view.