Mysterious "miss" at idle please help
#1
Mysterious "miss" at idle please help
Hey everyone got a quick question for ya. I have been having a noticeable miss at the #6 cyl and the CEL proved it. The engine will smooth out after it has been running however on cold starts or even if I'm going in reverse you can really feel it. Now outside of fuel injector, spark plug ( brand new ), wires ( brand new ), coil ( brand new ), cap and rotor ( relatively new ), pickup coil ( brand new ), crank position sensor ( brand new ), and compression. is there any where else I should be looking. I will be pulling injectors this weekend and fuel rail. Thanks!
It feels as though there's a mild cam in it but basically disappears once the engine is warmed up and I've driven it.
It feels as though there's a mild cam in it but basically disappears once the engine is warmed up and I've driven it.
#2
Sorry I can't be of help. I have done all of that as well (with the exception of the coil and CPS) and have yet to solve my mystery misfire either. If you get yours solved before me please share and I will do the same. I have been told that the cat. converter can cause this as well as the cam position sensor (in distributer). I have checked my cat but not the cam sensor yet. Good Luck.
#3
The cam sensor is supposedly fairly easy to replace if that ends up being the issue. Look it up in the service manual (look at the DIY thread).
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
Last edited by jasonw; 05-20-2009 at 02:11 AM.
#4
The cam sensor is supposedly fairly easy to replace if that ends up being the issue. Look it up in the service manual (look at the DIY thread).
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
#5
The cam sensor is supposedly fairly easy to replace if that ends up being the issue. Look it up in the service manual (look at the DIY thread).
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
To do an initial check on the injector, you don't need to pull the rail or the injector itself. Remove the wiring harness from the injector on #6, and take a multimeter, set it to ohms, put one probe to the left terminal, the other probe to the right terminal, and see what it shows. If cold, it should be in the 12.0 to 13.0 ohm range. Anything less than 12.0 or more than 13.0, it probably should be replaced.
If it was a cat issue, I doubt it'd disappear after warm-up. Have you routed the wires properly?
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Mysterious misses are the B*tch aren't they? I got one as well on rebuilt motor with new heads. Ugg! I just did a compression test today have no compression in one clyinder though. Did you check injector pulse? How about fuel pressure at the rail? I would do that before i just started pulling stuff out. Check the pulse make sure that the injector is being told to fire ( a Noid light will do this) if it is being told to fire switch it with another and see if the miss fallows the injector. I have also heard of some guys having problems with IAC, and intake gaskets doing this especially since you said the problem goes away after the truck is warm. You also might want to pull the valve cover and watch them work. I had a broken valve spring that caused this to happen once. Also not to be the bear of bad news but... on 98 to 03 5.2 and 5.9 engines the heads are known for cracking between every exaust and intake valve on every cylinder and eventually one just gets bad enough it causes a misfire (trust me been here with this problem) you wont get an oil coolant mixture with a problem like this too BTW. I had to buy new heads. Just some thoughts. Myself and Auram have been having this problem as well........
#9
Mysterious misses are the B*tch aren't they? I got one as well on rebuilt motor with new heads. Ugg! I just did a compression test today have no compression in one clyinder though. Did you check injector pulse? How about fuel pressure at the rail? I would do that before i just started pulling stuff out. Check the pulse make sure that the injector is being told to fire ( a Noid light will do this) if it is being told to fire switch it with another and see if the miss fallows the injector. I have also heard of some guys having problems with IAC, and intake gaskets doing this especially since you said the problem goes away after the truck is warm. You also might want to pull the valve cover and watch them work. I had a broken valve spring that caused this to happen once. Also not to be the bear of bad news but... on 98 to 03 5.2 and 5.9 engines the heads are known for cracking between every exaust and intake valve on every cylinder and eventually one just gets bad enough it causes a misfire (trust me been here with this problem) you wont get an oil coolant mixture with a problem like this too BTW. I had to buy new heads. Just some thoughts. Myself and Auram have been having this problem as well........