what's your average mpg?
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01-08-2013, 12:47 AM
#42
01-08-2013, 02:05 AM
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Water4gas and HHO systems are scams and potentially dangerous if you crash or bring a flame near the gas. Not to mention the state of Texas sued water4gas because their product is bs.
Nice truck btw
#44
01-08-2013, 09:17 AM
The water4gas, HHO, etc... systems don't work. It requires more energy to crack water molecules that you get out of burning them, (and hence, recombining...)
There are hundreds of these types of systems out there on the market, NONE of them are worth a tinkers damn. Do you seriously think that if the auto manufactures had the potential to double the fuel economy of some of their gas hogs, they would JUMP on the technology? Especially in this day and age of federally mandated fuel efficiency numbers?
Nope. Doesn't work. Never will.
There are hundreds of these types of systems out there on the market, NONE of them are worth a tinkers damn. Do you seriously think that if the auto manufactures had the potential to double the fuel economy of some of their gas hogs, they would JUMP on the technology? Especially in this day and age of federally mandated fuel efficiency numbers?
Nope. Doesn't work. Never will.
#45
01-08-2013, 09:28 AM
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#46
01-08-2013, 10:08 AM
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Im not quite sure where you went to school techningeer.....but WATER is a byproduct of combustion PERIOD. Your producing h2o now while burning your petrol..so not quite sure what your trying to say here.
Combustion or burning is the sequence of exothermic chemical reactions between a fuel and an oxidant accompanied by the production of heat and conversion of chemical species. The release of heat can produce light in the form of either glowing or a flame. Fuels of interest often include organic compounds (especially hydrocarbons) in the gas, liquid or solid phase.
In a complete combustion reaction, a compound reacts with an oxidizing element, such as oxygen or fluorine, and the products are compounds of each element in the fuel with the oxidizing element. For example:
CH4 + 2 O2 → CO2 + 2 H2O + energy
A simple example can be seen in the combustion of hydrogen and oxygen, which is a commonly used reaction in rocket engines:
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O(g) + heat
The result is water vapor.
Complete combustion is almost impossible to achieve. In reality, as actual combustion reactions come to equilibrium, a wide variety of major and minor species will be present such as carbon monoxide and pure carbon (soot or ash). Additionally, any combustion in atmospheric air, which is 79 percent nitrogen, will also create several forms of nitrogen oxides.
In complete combustion, the reactant burns in oxygen, producing a limited number of products. When a hydrocarbon burns in oxygen, the reaction will only yield carbon dioxide and water. When elements are burned, the products are primarily the most common oxides. Carbon will yield carbon dioxide, nitrogen will yield nitrogen dioxide, sulfur will yield sulfur dioxide, and iron will yield iron(III) oxide.
Incomplete combustion will only occur when there is not enough oxygen to allow the fuel to react completely to produce carbon dioxide and water. It also happens when the combustion is quenched by a heat sink such as a solid surface or flame trap.
For most fuels, such as diesel oil, coal or wood, pyrolysis occurs before combustion. In incomplete combustion, products of pyrolysis remain unburnt and contaminate the smoke with noxious particulate matter and gases. Partially oxidized compounds are also a concern; partial oxidation of ethanol can produce harmful acetaldehyde, and carbon can produce toxic carbon monoxide.
Combustion or burning is the sequence of exothermic chemical reactions between a fuel and an oxidant accompanied by the production of heat and conversion of chemical species. The release of heat can produce light in the form of either glowing or a flame. Fuels of interest often include organic compounds (especially hydrocarbons) in the gas, liquid or solid phase.
In a complete combustion reaction, a compound reacts with an oxidizing element, such as oxygen or fluorine, and the products are compounds of each element in the fuel with the oxidizing element. For example:
CH4 + 2 O2 → CO2 + 2 H2O + energy
A simple example can be seen in the combustion of hydrogen and oxygen, which is a commonly used reaction in rocket engines:
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O(g) + heat
The result is water vapor.
Complete combustion is almost impossible to achieve. In reality, as actual combustion reactions come to equilibrium, a wide variety of major and minor species will be present such as carbon monoxide and pure carbon (soot or ash). Additionally, any combustion in atmospheric air, which is 79 percent nitrogen, will also create several forms of nitrogen oxides.
In complete combustion, the reactant burns in oxygen, producing a limited number of products. When a hydrocarbon burns in oxygen, the reaction will only yield carbon dioxide and water. When elements are burned, the products are primarily the most common oxides. Carbon will yield carbon dioxide, nitrogen will yield nitrogen dioxide, sulfur will yield sulfur dioxide, and iron will yield iron(III) oxide.
Incomplete combustion will only occur when there is not enough oxygen to allow the fuel to react completely to produce carbon dioxide and water. It also happens when the combustion is quenched by a heat sink such as a solid surface or flame trap.
For most fuels, such as diesel oil, coal or wood, pyrolysis occurs before combustion. In incomplete combustion, products of pyrolysis remain unburnt and contaminate the smoke with noxious particulate matter and gases. Partially oxidized compounds are also a concern; partial oxidation of ethanol can produce harmful acetaldehyde, and carbon can produce toxic carbon monoxide.
CNG and Propane burning vehicles are more efficient than a gasoline engine, and aren't too hard to find. It also isn't terribly hard to convert a engine to propane or CNG if you have access to the parts.
#47
01-08-2013, 10:19 AM
#48
01-08-2013, 10:24 AM
Champion
#49
01-08-2013, 10:25 AM
It wouldnt be explosive in a crash as there is no storage of HHO...it would just be water and baking soda solution to leak out. Using hydrogen for fuel is nothing new. Lots of ppl out there are thinking up innovative fuel cells and methods to make it a viable option...
I for one...plan to play around with it a little...itll make a good science project for my daughter this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Zu-Hg6ntgqI
When i was a kid....a guy built a carb. that would get a big block gas hog 50 mpg. Petro companies bought it out and it never makes it to market...this is the same scenario for many great products....shut down by those profiting the most from oil and gas.
I actually found this hho production interesting....i tell ya what...ill play around with it...and see what i come up with...if it works.....ill consider reporting back
this guys videos i found the most interesting...he gets good production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Qn4CGlZp4
I for one...plan to play around with it a little...itll make a good science project for my daughter this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Zu-Hg6ntgqI
When i was a kid....a guy built a carb. that would get a big block gas hog 50 mpg. Petro companies bought it out and it never makes it to market...this is the same scenario for many great products....shut down by those profiting the most from oil and gas.
I actually found this hho production interesting....i tell ya what...ill play around with it...and see what i come up with...if it works.....ill consider reporting back
this guys videos i found the most interesting...he gets good production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Qn4CGlZp4
#50
01-08-2013, 01:42 PM
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