jmr lift
ok so we've all been complaining about not having a lift for our trucks for a long time now and finally there is one. so has anyone actually bought this and installed it yet other than the one guy or is everyone just waiting on other people to try it out first?
You just answer your own question!!!
I would buy this lift if I didn't already have close to the price of this lift in parts to do a SAS swap if work ever slows down.
I think they did a couple things wrong at first, leading to a little slow uptake on the kit.
First was the waiver they had up there. While I understand that they were just trying to protect themselves; however, that waiver makes people VERY nervous when displayed so prominently. Other lift manufacturers have these, but they are in fine print, deep in the instructions, ect. People don't see them unless you look for them, but they are just as legally binding.
The next is that One section says the parts included are one list, the intrsuctions have another list, and the list on other websites is another. (If I remember correctly, the actual kit site for purchase doesnt even list brake lines in the kit contents.) Granted they are a new site, but they are quite unorganized yet, leading to less customer confidence, especially from a new company.
Then there is that there is some permanent modification required to install the kit, cutting of a mount/member if I remember correctly. This makes someone not sure about a kit from a new company even more nervous. In other words, IF, lets say your kit fails...I don't know gets a huge crack down one side of a cross member or something. JMR is gone and cant be contacted. You now have to do LOTS of work to your truck, including welding to get it back to factory, you cant just unbolt the kit and re-install the old parts.
Lastly exposure....I have tried to help with this, sending information to magazines, posting on other manufacturers facebook pages ect.
There are lots of little nuances that are going to make adoption of this kit slow. First thing I can think to do is to release a video of the guys being a little rougher on the kit. Show that it can take a little abuse. Do some simple things like running over a speed bump at a good clip. Hit some deep potholes going at a good rate of speed. Show the customers that this kit can and will take the abuse the average user is going to throw at it. Any person can say that they tested a kit for thousands of miles, show me the proof. No one is saying you need to get so crazy you destroy your truck, but you need to show something more than some minor rock crawling.
But honestly, I think one thing they NEED to do being a new manufacturer, even if they need to take a loan to do it. make 3-10 of these kits, and give them to some people on here free that are in a wide range of places. Get these kits out in New York, Florida, Colorado, California, Washington, and maybe a couple others. Have the people you give the kit to get you some PR, you get more customers, more people get interested, someone gets a free lift and the whole Dakota Segment gets LOTS more attention.
I am confident if you can get your name out there, these will sell. JMR just has to overcome the current "New Guy" fears everyone has.
I think they did a couple things wrong at first, leading to a little slow uptake on the kit.
First was the waiver they had up there. While I understand that they were just trying to protect themselves; however, that waiver makes people VERY nervous when displayed so prominently. Other lift manufacturers have these, but they are in fine print, deep in the instructions, ect. People don't see them unless you look for them, but they are just as legally binding.
The next is that One section says the parts included are one list, the intrsuctions have another list, and the list on other websites is another. (If I remember correctly, the actual kit site for purchase doesnt even list brake lines in the kit contents.) Granted they are a new site, but they are quite unorganized yet, leading to less customer confidence, especially from a new company.
Then there is that there is some permanent modification required to install the kit, cutting of a mount/member if I remember correctly. This makes someone not sure about a kit from a new company even more nervous. In other words, IF, lets say your kit fails...I don't know gets a huge crack down one side of a cross member or something. JMR is gone and cant be contacted. You now have to do LOTS of work to your truck, including welding to get it back to factory, you cant just unbolt the kit and re-install the old parts.
Lastly exposure....I have tried to help with this, sending information to magazines, posting on other manufacturers facebook pages ect.
There are lots of little nuances that are going to make adoption of this kit slow. First thing I can think to do is to release a video of the guys being a little rougher on the kit. Show that it can take a little abuse. Do some simple things like running over a speed bump at a good clip. Hit some deep potholes going at a good rate of speed. Show the customers that this kit can and will take the abuse the average user is going to throw at it. Any person can say that they tested a kit for thousands of miles, show me the proof. No one is saying you need to get so crazy you destroy your truck, but you need to show something more than some minor rock crawling.
But honestly, I think one thing they NEED to do being a new manufacturer, even if they need to take a loan to do it. make 3-10 of these kits, and give them to some people on here free that are in a wide range of places. Get these kits out in New York, Florida, Colorado, California, Washington, and maybe a couple others. Have the people you give the kit to get you some PR, you get more customers, more people get interested, someone gets a free lift and the whole Dakota Segment gets LOTS more attention.
I am confident if you can get your name out there, these will sell. JMR just has to overcome the current "New Guy" fears everyone has.
Last edited by bruno426; Jan 12, 2012 at 10:01 AM.
Since this company is really small and only share his product to us because we complain not to have a lift kit available for our truck and no big names want to fab one what would you do then???The original plan was not really to sell it. Its just a Dakota owner that spend alot of time on building his own kit and sharing the possibility to have one. I would buy one if i was not unemployed right now.
Now the question is will it fall on deaf ears, or will it be taken into consideration?
I would like to see this kit cause a surge of support for the Dakotas. Iron Bull still has no info on a bumper for our trucks.
I will say this...I was messaged by zone off road after posting about the lift kit JMR had completed. They said that they were in R&D on a lift. They didn't specify much more other than it would take a while. Heck they didn't even confirm that it was anything more than Coil over spacers. But it is one more company planning to offer a product for our trucks.
JMR, you essentially have a monopoly on these lift kits...use that to your advantage.
I honestly think that if they gave these out to even just 3 people around the US, JMR would end up with a mess of sales....provided they support the customers right, they might be able to make it big time, and not have to work any other job but JMR, with money to spare.
I would like to see this kit cause a surge of support for the Dakotas. Iron Bull still has no info on a bumper for our trucks.
I will say this...I was messaged by zone off road after posting about the lift kit JMR had completed. They said that they were in R&D on a lift. They didn't specify much more other than it would take a while. Heck they didn't even confirm that it was anything more than Coil over spacers. But it is one more company planning to offer a product for our trucks.
JMR, you essentially have a monopoly on these lift kits...use that to your advantage.
I honestly think that if they gave these out to even just 3 people around the US, JMR would end up with a mess of sales....provided they support the customers right, they might be able to make it big time, and not have to work any other job but JMR, with money to spare.
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Since this company is really small and only share his product to us because we complain not to have a lift kit available for our truck and no big names want to fab one what would you do then???The original plan was not really to sell it. Its just a Dakota owner that spend alot of time on building his own kit and sharing the possibility to have one. I would buy one if i was not unemployed right now.
He has a huge opportunity here, and all he has to do to make it work is have a little faith.
Very good point Bruno!! I would jump on this lift kit if offered a deep discount and gladly help out with getting the name/kit known. I have mentioned the kit to quite a few local dak owners and they all said they were game IF somebody they knew had experience with it. Sometimes you need to spend money to make money.....
Very good point Bruno!! I would jump on this lift kit if offered a deep discount and gladly help out with getting the name/kit known. I have mentioned the kit to quite a few local dak owners and they all said they were game IF somebody they knew had experience with it. Sometimes you need to spend money to make money.....
Granted, $2350 is still more than an already tried and true skyjacker for a fullsize chevy ($1890)
What bruno said is true, but I think that if even just ONE person who isn't afraid to do a full rundown and write up plus a complete review of the product, were to get it for free. The word will be out and JMR will get their just desserts. 3 would be great, but if he can do just 1 without a loan I think it would do wonders for the business.
However, too much demand can cause problems too... if he gets 35 orders and wants 4 weeks to build then I would hope they can cope with the volume and still keep that 4 week turnaround.


