Front End Suspension - No springs??
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Front End Suspension - No springs??
Hey All,
Poking around under the front end and I noticed no coil springs on the front end of my 2004 Ram 1500. I always chalked this up to it being a 1/2 ton and not a HD but our work trucks, most 1500s a 2007/2008 and 2009 all have coil springs. Is the 2004 system much weaker because of this? Suspensions systems available to add in coil springs? If you get a lift...say 3" would this likely include springs? Wondering if anyone has played around with this much. Any advice, or experiences would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Poking around under the front end and I noticed no coil springs on the front end of my 2004 Ram 1500. I always chalked this up to it being a 1/2 ton and not a HD but our work trucks, most 1500s a 2007/2008 and 2009 all have coil springs. Is the 2004 system much weaker because of this? Suspensions systems available to add in coil springs? If you get a lift...say 3" would this likely include springs? Wondering if anyone has played around with this much. Any advice, or experiences would be appreciated.
Cheers,
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you got torsion bars which means no springs.
they put coil springs in the later models...
with t-bars you have a free level... just crank 'em up
not sure about strength... ive never had a problem but i bet someone on here knows why they changed to coil springs
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they put coil springs in the later models...
with t-bars you have a free level... just crank 'em up
not sure about strength... ive never had a problem but i bet someone on here knows why they changed to coil springs
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and welcome to DF!
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They redesigned the front suspensions in 06, that's why 02-05 2wd only have coils. Torsions bars are a form of spring, every rwd mopar from the 50's into the 80's had them (i.e., my Dart, Duster, Charger, Road Runner and Monaco, just different sizes) and they work just fine.
Basically a torsion bar is a metal bar that returns to form after being flexed. In fact a spring is a form of torsion bar, Just the ones in are trucks take different shape. instead of a coil, they are generally straight.
If you want to see a really good example of a torsion bar, Look at those flex frames on eye glasses and imagine that scaled up a bit.
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The only drawback to torsion bars is that the stationary end of them is usually set up under the middle of the truck and attached to the frame/cross member therefore when you install bracket style lifts they drop this whole assembly and you dont gain any real ground clearance under the frame...
But as mentioned above they are probably the toughest kind of IFS set up known to man.
But as mentioned above they are probably the toughest kind of IFS set up known to man.
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Really? pics? Wait, are you still talking IFS? And torsion bars are not "Like" a spring, they "Are" a spring. As far as muscle cars and rear torsion suspension I haven't seen that. Only 60's car I know about with rear torsions would be you Porsche's and VW's.
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As far as "Like" goes, Where did you get that?
Yes indeed, many "custom" muscle cars use a torsion bar system because it is cheap and very strong on top of leaving lots of space. Pretty much all the factory released cars don't. Goto the track or a car show sometime, You will see them alot.