ORIGINAL: horatio102

RebelRam - maybe you should do some more research, perhaps look at Dodge's website. You'll see that their numbers are the same as the ones from Toyota's website. Who's retarded? Not Toyota.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

I don't even know why your pulling me into this, but you are altering the numbers. I've got the 04 Ram brochure in front of me and the 4.7L doesn't tow less than 7100# in a 1500 model.

?????? WTF is your point again. I keep losing it in all the BS.

ORIGINAL: RebelRam04


First off you didn't "prove me wrong" with your cut and paste in the previous post because I posted the Auto tranny numbers, second... um RETARD. The numbers I posted ARE from the Dodge website. Cut and Pasted. So don't go shooting your mouth off because you are too retarded to realize that the Ram is a better truck. And as far as the Hemi debate is concerned I don't own a Hemi. I own a 4.7L Magnum and a 5.9L Magnum. My Rams have been an '02 Quad Cab 5.9L SLT 4x4, an '04 RC 4.7L ST 4x4, and an '01 QC 5.9L SPORT OFFROAD 4x4. I also owned an '01 Dakota 4.7L SPORT 4x2. Hmmm, let's see.... that makes 4 Dodge trucks in 3 years. One (the Dakota) I traded for a bigger truck (the '02 Ram), one (the '02 Ram) was totaled by a Semi, and it should be noted that I was unharmed in that wreck... great truck, and two I still own - the '04 and the '01. I think if someone else made a product worth owning I MIGHT be compelled to purchase it, but alas, noone does. Interesting that Toyota keeps sending me $50-$70 test drive offers in order to try to sway me towards their trucks, but um NO. If you want a economic car, buy foreign, if you want a truck, buy a dog name it clue and get a Ram. Enough Said.

ORIGINAL: guido7

Horatio, simply put, Nachoman says it best.... I am envious LOL..... if you dislike the Hemi, just sit back and let us rant, WE, and I include ALL of US, LOVE OUR HEMI'S....and as said before, thats why we're here... to praise our toys.....
Im prob. the oldest guy here (58) and have had all the american brands, and out of all of them dodge's ruled supreme, overall.....

Have driven all the foreigns before I bought my hemi, new and used, up to 35K, and found I liked this truck the best....

by the way I had a 360, dodge (66) old police car from missouri, and it ran great......with push button on the dash, too friggin cool, Torqueflight tranny.......then went to Vietnam, and slod it...wish I had it now....but life nas changes so here I am with my hemi....

Simply put, enjoy your love for toyota and nissan, but go to their sites and rant, its better for all of us....
Your a nice guy, but we dont wanna hear all the BS....
best of luck man...........GUIDO

What's my point? My point is that in standard trim the Tundra isn't as much of a weenie as people seem to think compared to a bone stock Ram.

ORIGINAL: HEMI_OFF_ROAD

You know Horatio, you may have a hard on for the Toyota and Nissan, and, I guess if you prefer crap, then well, those two have alot of it. I own a Toyota Sienna and my Dodge ram has already beet the Toyota Sienna in fewer problems. The sienna is a 04 and has already been in the shop twice for all day warranty repairs of broken crap and on top of that has had multiple recalls. I hesitated on buying another Toyota becasue my brotjher in law was a mechanical engineer (Quality assurance) for Toyota and would tell me off all the long amount of problems that they had, and how toyota would just try to push it under the rug as if it didnt exist. I was also concerned about buying another toyota sice we had a Toyota camry. Wow, if that wasnt the worls biggest POS car. Hell, how can my dad have an F-150 with 60k and go without a problem and my wifes camry be in the shop for many problems. All this from the so called reliable auto maker. What a joke. I cant tell you about the crap that Toyota is making, and even at that NIssan makes Toyota look good. You know something funny, I have been a ford guyall my life and this is my first Dodge, so telling you that Toyata and Nissan are building little boy trucks, I am not telling you this from a hard headed Dodge guy. I am telling you this from a REAL truck enthusiast point of view that your rice burning, grocery getting, POS, overpriced, overrated, underbuilt, BUTT UGLY, flower shop delivery vehicles are nothing more than roadkill stuck between the treads of my Goodyear Wrangler AT's. You call yourself a Auto Enthusiast, but I dont know how much of an Auto Enthusiast you can be when your on Dodge forum site trying to boost your ego because secretively you were at a stoplight in a Toyota Tundra feeling bad because you cant tow anything more than a cargo traler, when all of a sudden some punk as# kid pulled up in a Dodge Ram and smoked your rice burnin as# so hard. If your looking for a pep talk, I am sure that somewhere there is a Hyndai forum site for you. They might like to hear about your Tundra and Titan stories, but then again they might scare you because I hear the tow rating on the Santa FE is creeping up with the Tundra.

PS: I dont give a rats as# about what your base model comparison is, I care about what MY TRUCK can do. IF your happy using your truck to deliver pizzas, well, then, I like pepperoni and olive. I am not goingf to sit here and tell you that the HEMI=God B.S., because you know what, its not and next year there will probably be truck making 10 more HP(probably will be the HEMI), and people will look at whats out now and say, I cant believe it only has 345 HP. I am simply trying to explain that Toyata and Nissan are not making real trucks and that the Big 3 are and have been making real trucks for real men. I am also trying to tell you in a not so gentle way that if your going to try and sell us on these speedbumps, then go somewhere else. I am not the only one here telling you to get lost. Take the advice, its free and will make you a smarter person.