http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/...bi_ge/chrysler

... just keeps getting better and better... feel free to apply sarcasm to that statement

 

Uuuuuuuuuugggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

 

I will have to find the site, but If i remember correctly the last time that I was reading about this, the things that I saw that were really bad were
1. GM would recieve goverment assistance to liquidate most of dodge.
2. GM would leave only the Jeep and one other model, while the Jeep would be rebranded as another hummer model.
3. GM would either trash the cummins, or allow it as another option on the larger trucks.
4. Mopar, Dodge, Chrysler, all gone.

If this would happen, then I would NEVER buy a dodge vehicle again. I mean come on, we are talking about engineers that on the first gen duramaxes didn't thik that even though diesel burned hotter than the melting point of the alloy they made the heads out of the heads would not melt, UH DUH! These are the same people that consistently put incorrectly sized pistons in engines for years, and and ignore it. Hell I can remember working on the older chevy engines, and the iron had bubbles in it. PITS like perferation, you could take off a head and see them.

I can see it now, in 20 years dodge rams if they are even called that will have engines that burn oil like a mother, smoke like hell and have a ****ton of piston slap all at 80,000 miles.

The last thing that comes to mind is OEM equipment. Will all mopar replacement parts be lowered to GM standards?

Why!? This is one of the stupidest things that dodge can do. Oh well we shall see if dodge's new owner knows what the hell he is doing.

Now I apologize if I have upset any of you. But this just burns my cookies.

 

This I wouldnt mind so much, At least ford puts a little pride in their work, Hell if you take a look around a dodge, then go to a ford look around, ALOT of the smaller things are the exact same. Door handels, rear window clasps, air vents ect.

Yes ford has their problems, mainly that they need a good place to buy quality engines from.

But dodge has its problems too, transmissions. Lord forgive me for saying it, but a torqueshift auto behind a cummins wouldnt be that bad.

 

DuraMax Engines are designed and built by Izuzu, not Chevy. You have to blame Izuzu Joe for that fiasco. Yes, Gm trucks are the worst of the 3.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/bu...28auto.html?hp

the tone of this article in the NYT
and the big one yesterday on the front page of the Wall Street Journal
is that the GM-Chrysler merger is inevitable

this NYT article seems to say that Cerberus has convinced the Bush administration to give them the $ billions quickly

I am still of the opinion that merging GM and Chrysler will hurt both companies,
not create a healthier one

Japan is a smaller country than the USA
but look how many separate auto companies are surviving there

 

I'm going to disagree here....

Back in the day, you had 3 or 4 different models per brand.....now you have 10 per brand.....

The reality? The current market has become bloated with entirely TOO many cars. Every company has cars that are exact duplicates of each other, minus the bumpers and lights, and a few minor changes....

What would indeed be a great thing for the auto industry right now is if several companies folded or shut down. This would force more diversity into the lineups, as well as forcing these companies to re-focus their attention on what people want....rather then just pumping out cookie cutter cars.

Am I saying it would be a good thing that GM buys Chrysler? Not at all, just saying that in the end, this country has lived high on the hog for too long and not had to pay the piper.....I'd rather see fat trimming then wholesale shutdowns.

And GM would not ditch the Cummins....that would be absolute DUMBEST thing they could do.

 

Isuzu builds damned good diesel engines. My brother has a ¾-ton 1st Gen Duramax 4-door truck that hauls 9,000lbs like nothing.

 

I'm guessing you are talking about towing 9000lbs? Hell, a new F150 with the 5.4L will tow 11K. A Hemi Ram 1500 can tow 9100lbs.

 

okay, yes Isuzu designesd them, but gm employed them. Ignoring the duramax, what of the major three has the most vehicle IGNORING DIESELS that make a huge cloud of smoke when they leave, not because of mileage, but due to the fact that they just dont stand up.

wait for it..............................GM tada