Dodge Cares, Why are the manifold bolts breaking?
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Hello,
This is a great info Daof4 knowing that alot of heat is a part of the problem here,I'd say let's experiment differents solutions because we are almost left alone with this.
I did the passenger side a few months ago,I installed springs between the BBK and the exhaust,it might help the rear bolts on those rear cylinders to support torsion,also,this is a big and heavy exhaust line.
Will change the driver side soon and do the same but before I'd like to check on temperatures with a infra tool before the cats just to see if I'm able to notice a difference,it will not be while in charge on the engine but at different RPM,just experimenting for fun .
This is a great info Daof4 knowing that alot of heat is a part of the problem here,I'd say let's experiment differents solutions because we are almost left alone with this.
I did the passenger side a few months ago,I installed springs between the BBK and the exhaust,it might help the rear bolts on those rear cylinders to support torsion,also,this is a big and heavy exhaust line.
Will change the driver side soon and do the same but before I'd like to check on temperatures with a infra tool before the cats just to see if I'm able to notice a difference,it will not be while in charge on the engine but at different RPM,just experimenting for fun .
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There is no recall on them, so, if you are beyond the warranty period, likely dodge isn't gonna help. Best fix for them is shorty headers, and good quality header bolts/gaskets.
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I’ve seen my share of Hemi’s in the shop and what’s been clear to me is the manifolds have a warping issue which is causing the bolts to stretch and break, and instead of replacing the manifolds, Dodge attempted to remedy the problem with different bolts. The problem is once the manifold is warped it has to be planed or replaced, otherwise it’s just going to keep pulling/stretching and the bolt will stretch and break again.
I’m not an engineer but I also don’t condemn them for the fault either. Chances are good at least one engineer attempted to remedy the problem and was shut down by someone above them.
There are so many factors to consider when building a vehicle and the engineers are only one step in the process - they are not the buck-stoppers with the final say on everything. Like many of us on these boards, they’re just trying to do their job within the limits given them by their employer.
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I appreciate how you’ve been playing this harp through almost the entire thread - I just finished reading through it. I agree that the manifolds are the problem.
I’ve seen my share of Hemi’s in the shop and what’s been clear to me is the manifolds have a warping issue which is causing the bolts to stretch and break, and instead of replacing the manifolds, Dodge attempted to remedy the problem with different bolts. The problem is once the manifold is warped it has to be planed or replaced, otherwise it’s just going to keep pulling/stretching and the bolt will stretch and break again.
I’m not an engineer but I also don’t condemn them for the fault either. Chances are good at least one engineer attempted to remedy the problem and was shut down by someone above them.
There are so many factors to consider when building a vehicle and the engineers are only one step in the process - they are not the buck-stoppers with the final say on everything. Like many of us on these boards, they’re just trying to do their job within the limits given them by their employer.
I’ve seen my share of Hemi’s in the shop and what’s been clear to me is the manifolds have a warping issue which is causing the bolts to stretch and break, and instead of replacing the manifolds, Dodge attempted to remedy the problem with different bolts. The problem is once the manifold is warped it has to be planed or replaced, otherwise it’s just going to keep pulling/stretching and the bolt will stretch and break again.
I’m not an engineer but I also don’t condemn them for the fault either. Chances are good at least one engineer attempted to remedy the problem and was shut down by someone above them.
There are so many factors to consider when building a vehicle and the engineers are only one step in the process - they are not the buck-stoppers with the final say on everything. Like many of us on these boards, they’re just trying to do their job within the limits given them by their employer.